Anybody who tries to finger four 16 year olds in one evening should have been delivered to the police immediately. It's hardly a complicated situation.
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Unlikely the full story will ever see the light of day.
Meantime, there is wide speculation and explaining, as always, is losing.
To me the key issues are
- the youth of the victims in a situation where there is a power imbalance, not enough support and agendas running which were not in the best interests of the victims.
- serious political mismanagement on many levels.
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Originally posted by Wayne View PostBob, I'm not saying it is right that the alleged offender isn't brought to justice but what actually are the privacy laws around this.
Are you suggesting that they should have gone against the privacy laws and informed the police because 2 wrongs make a right?
There are no privacy laws when reporting crimes to the police.
It's not a crime to report a crime.
If you are a victim, or witness a crime or come across a victim of a crime then contact the police immediately.
It's pretty clear cut, isn't it?
The Labour Party senior figures deliberately suppressed all details about these four sexual assaults.
The least they could have done is contact the victim support group in the NZ Police and taken it from there.
They have trained professionals available.
The fact that one of the victims has gone to the police simply reinforces that the Labour Party actions were at odds with what that victim wanted.
By suppressing these sexual assaults, by not informing the parents of the victims and by not contacting the police, the Labour Party seemed to be acting like a cult where young people are isolated when they are vulnerable in order to control them.
That's a bit scary. But then, bullies also take this approach.
It's a bit hard to defend the Labour Party actions and using "privacy of the victim" is about the best they can do.
I did note that this defence was given extensive coverage when the story broke - more than I have noticed for any other criminal activity. I wonder why?
By keeping quiet, the Labour Party could be accused of assisting the offender avoid prosecution.
I am also surprised that National have been so restrained with their comments.
That would suggest that this episode really is more serious than would first appear.
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can't organise interns
youth camp turns out be unlimited booze piss-up
can't be surprised if gov. turns out to be
unfocused money throws, with no one held responsible when the money runs out
except fiscally conservative tax payers
who will be taxed again for new unfocused money throws
they just don't seem to have the people to take responsibility
of their aspiration visions from start to finishLast edited by eri; 16-03-2018, 10:48 AM.have you defeated them?
your demons
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Jacinda is just the front-of-office pretty girl while the Labour Party President runs the show - and she knows it.
The honeymoon is over.
Jacinda will be ground down into the dust this year.
Will she survive as PM through to 2020?
Probably not.
In the past week Ardern still had a chance to prove herself. She could have shown Haworth, Labour and the country who's boss. Possibly, the only way to do that was to demand a head.
The head is Andrew Kirton's. He was donkey deep in this debacle. He was told of the alleged sexual harassment four days after it happened. It was under his watch the victims weren't offered help until three weeks after the event.
Demanding a head would also have told New Zealand parents the Prime Minister takes this seriously and won't tolerate this kind of stuff-up.
But Ardern took no scalp.
Is that because she doesn't think the issue was a big-enough stuff-up to demand a resignation? Or is it because she hasn't the power to claim a scalp?
You can't help but think Kirton wouldn't have survived under Helen Clark.
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Originally posted by eri View Postapparently 5c a ltr auckland fuel tax wouldn't raise enough
but they could start at 5c then jack it to 10c as soon as they could get away with it
that'd be $4 - $6 extra per fill for our car
Even better, according to Jacinda, it's not a new tax.
Take that, you Aucklanders.
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Isn't it great?
The fresh, new Labour/Green MPs hate oil drilling, cars, carparking buldings and motorways.
And they are going to deal to them.
But Auckland was built around cars and making life difficult for Auckland motorists means about a million people are upset every time they fill up with petrol.
Who will they vote for in 2020?
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Even if Labour are voted out - the next useless bunch won't fix anything - let alone reduce taxes.
Need some new decent people to vote for unfortunately.
Who's going to make NZ great again??The three most harmful addictions are heroin, carbohydrates and a monthly salary - Fred Wilson.
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=12013908
In the past week Ardern still had a chance to prove herself. She could have shown Haworth, Labour and the country who's boss. Possibly, the only way to do that was to demand a head.
The head is Andrew Kirton's. He was donkey deep in this debacle. He was told of the alleged sexual harassment four days after it happened. It was under his watch the victims weren't offered help until three weeks after the event.
Demanding a head would also have told New Zealand parents the Prime Minister takes this seriously and won't tolerate this kind of stuff-up.
But Ardern took no scalp.
Is that because she doesn't think the issue was a big-enough stuff-up to demand a resignation? Or is it because she hasn't the power to claim a scalp?
You can't help but think Kirton wouldn't have survived under Helen Clark.
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Originally posted by artemis View PostIt also takes a while for appointments to be made, especially at senior level. That implies Mr Kirton has been looking for some time.
This issue surfaced 3 months ago.
Kirton must have been sacked back then but got the 'leave with dignity' clause invoked.
I expect he'll take his defective moral compass and do well in the cut-throat airline industry.
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