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    Hi Guys

    Oh those lucky state house tenants:

    State tenants pay just $100 for million-dollar sea views

    12.04.2005

    Peter Gaston
    Hawke's Bay's most valuable state house is worth $465,000 and its tenants pay rent of less than $100 a week.

    While Housing New Zealand will not identify the property because of "tenant privacy reasons" the two-bedroom unit is understood to be one of eight it built in Ahuriri nearly 20 years ago, before Hardinge Road became fashionable. The units are among New Zealand's most valuable state houses.

    Four of the units front Hardinge Road and the others, slightly behind, also have sea views from upstairs.

    A Housing New Zealand spokesperson said two people have lived in the property for 19 years and pay an income-related rent of $95 rent a week.

    Those paying income-related rent pay no more than 25 percent of their income in rent.

    The spokesperson said the land the unit sits on was valued at $301,000 in July 2004 and the improvements were valued at $155,000.

    The rental paid was slightly higher than the Napier average, which included a mix of income-related and market rents, of $80.98. Nearly 90 percent of Housing NZ's Napier clients were on income-related rents.

    The average Housing NZ rent in Hastings was $84.46 and 88 percent of tenants paid income-related rent.

    New Zealand's most valuable state house is worth more than $1 million and its tenants pay just $75 a week.

    Housing NZ figures show that the 10 most valuable state houses in the country are all in Auckland and worth more than $800,000 each.

    In Wellington, the most valuable state house is worth $515,000, with six bedrooms, where 12 tenants pay $97 a week. One tenant has lived in a $495,000 Wellington house, paying $96 in rent a week, for 30 years.

    Housing NZ will not reveal the address of its most expensive property, worth $1,088,000, except to say it is in its Glen Innes district, which also includes blue-chip suburbs Mission Bay, Kohimarama and St Heliers, as well as Orakei, Mt Wellington and Glendowie.

    The family who live in the three-bedroom house have been there for five years. The land is valued at $1 million, the house itself at $88,000.

    The next most expensive house is in the same area and worth $897,000. Its tenants pay $84 in rent, while tenants living in an $884,000 Glen Innes property pay just $50 a week.

    Tenants living in an $866,000 Panmure house for $62 a week have been there for 35 years.

    The most expensive house in the Manawatu-Wairarapa Housing NZ region is on the Kapiti Coast, and worth $216,616.
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    Regards
    "There's one way to find out if a man is honest-ask him. If he says 'yes,' you know he is a crook." Groucho Marx

  • #2
    I read the article when it came out. I'm sure that it's only a matter of time before such tenants become relocated and the properties hit the market. It'll all come out in the wash

    Simon

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    • #3
      I think the Auckland one was more interesting. the property was actually worth over a $1m but the breakdown was funny. somthing like over $900k for the section and under $100k for the improvements. I think the tenants had been in it for over 20 years.

      It said there was no intention to sell as it was their job to provide housing.

      I would have thought it would be more sensible to sell and build/buy 4 new ones worth $250k each. Surely that would better serve the people they are trying to serve.

      Why are tenents in the places for so long as well. obviously it is becasue they are so cheap but surely there should be a policy, like on the dole. to get them out and into their own place (rented or bought) Have say a 5 year policy unless school age children live there.

      Ie give a hand up, not a hand out.

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      • #4
        It's very hard to argue with the concept of a hand up not a hand out.

        I also think that the state owning houses that are what can loosely be described as an exclusive property is a bit unwise. Sell and purchase four more for the same value sounds great to me. It should even appeal to aunty Helen's socialist leanings.

        Let's go abit further... What about a system where the tenants can only stay for a set period (say five years). They then have to vacate. The rents that they have been paying are then returned as a deposit on the tenants own home.

        Of course as a Landlord I'm not to keen on the idea... but as a NZer I wpnder if the idea has merit.
        Counter cyclic means always swimming against the tide

        Manawatu Property Investors' Association

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        • #5
          There's a concept in economics called "utility". It's a measure of the cost/value associated with something by an individual. Whether we like it or not, many people view the benefits of working for a living as not valuable enough to balance out the cost to their lifestyle on the dole. And I can understand that when they get to live in a house of their own with great views for a fraction of the market rent. Effectively, the housing department are encouraging them to stay on a benefit. They are being protected from reality by people claiming to be "helping" them.
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          • #6
            Hi Drelly

            Missed seeing you on Saturday night....

            I have to say I do agree with you... I had a brother in law that explained to me in great detail how he didn't want to work for a living. He was unemployed. He did, however, want to stay at home to watch his children grow up..

            I asked him how he was going to support them.

            "The government will pay me the dole" he said.

            It wasn't long before my sister dumped the loser.
            Counter cyclic means always swimming against the tide

            Manawatu Property Investors' Association

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            • #7
              Hey Janesco...

              I wanted to come down but just couldn't make it.

              I think that one problem with our welfare system at the moment is that most people are not comfortable making the benefit low enough to encourage people to get off it. I have had tenants on welfare who have big screen TV's, computers, games consoles, nice cars and so on. If I were in the same situation, I wouldn't be able to justify those luxuries. But when people with little financial nouse can get them for only a few dollars a week and they have all this spare time to fill in, I can understand their mentality. Perhaps people on a benefit should not be able to so easily get credit? Particularly for luxuries.
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              • #8
                Can you imagine what an exciting, dynamic place this country would be if all those people who sponged off the taxpayers decided to get off their butts and contribute to the country and its economy..

                The country would be better off as our balance of payments improved. Tax dollars could be redistributed to where they would do more good: health, education, and security. But most importantly the individual and his/her family would benefit from the feeling of being a participating member of our society. They would develop an understanding of the relationship between effort and reward. Their kids would aspire to greater things. We, as a nation, would all lift our game.

                It all begins with education. Allan Duff had the right idea with his books in homes programme. The current approach has to change. The safety net has become a hammock for many and the recipients are every bit as much the losers for it.

                Julian
                Gimme $20k. You will receive some well packaged generic advice that will put you on the road to riches beyond your wildest dreams ...yeah right!

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                • #9
                  I vote for Julian

                  What electorate are you standing in
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