Councils Holding the Country to Ransom

[eri]

"We took on this challenge and it has been quite a journey," Gunton says.

"For a start it's taken us 15 years - a third of my working life

- just to get planning consent for a town centre the council actually wanted.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nzrpg/news/article.cfm?c_id=1504122&objectid=11833293

[Davo36]

Come and sit down and have a chat with us and tell us about your development...

Sounds so reasonable doesn't it?

[eri]

wellington council

not happy with wellington homes

owners should spend more

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/91729467/borer-and-leaks-compromise-60-per-cent-of-wellington-homes

[flyernzl]

Note there is no specific mention that this survey related to rentals - it seems to have covered owner-occupied as well.

Hence our strong recommendation that any legislation to cover residential warrant of fitness should apply to all homes, not just rentals.

[artemis]

Note there is no specific mention that this survey related to rentals - it seems to have covered owner-occupied as well.

Hence our strong recommendation that any legislation to cover residential warrant of fitness should apply to all homes, not just rentals.

Like that will happen.

The proponents of the rental WOF make a case that owners can upgrade their property but tenants cannot. They also make the case that certain housing conditions lead to sick children. Which case also applies to owner occupied of course. Slippery slope right there.

Certainly there are some rentals in poor condition but IMO any research into sick children must include overcrowding and household electricity cost as key factors. These do sometimes get a mention but mainly the direct causal link is imperfectly drawn between certain property conditions and sick or injured kids.

[Perry]

Quick - Look Over There!

The proponents of the rental WOF make a case that certain housing conditions lead to sick children. Which case also applies to owner occupied of course. Slippery slope right there.

You're on track, there. But what slippery slope do you mean?

IMO any research into sick children must include overcrowding and household electricity cost as key factors. These do sometimes get a mention but mainly the direct causal link is imperfectly drawn between certain property conditions and sick or injured kids.

And you're being charitable, there. The sorts of research you refer to are akin to government consultations and surveys: designed to get the answer they want.

As Flyer et al have oft observed, targeting LLs is so easy and so populist. Targeting electricity costs is harder (because of gov't stealth tax SOE dividends) and overcrowding - again mainly because of gov't policies.

So much more politically expedient and tenable to point the finger elsewhere.

[Courham]

Not NZ related but still sticking it to the council- even if you don't like her choice of colours!

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/24/red-white-striped-house-zipporah-lisle-mainwaring

Craig

[eri]

He ruled that using section 215 “to deal with questions of aesthetics, as opposed to disrepair or dilapidation, falls outside the intention and spirit of the planning code”.

[eri]

Thousands of Christchurch netballers have had their first game for the season axed due to the lack of a city council certificate allowing public use of a building.

"As always, public safety is paramount, and it is essential that due diligence is followed to ensure buildings can be safely occupied."......

Earlier on Friday, a council spokeswoman said it had not received the evidence it needed for the certificate.

Council staff had been working with CNC since February 8 and on Thursday had "not yet made a decision as to whether a certificate for public use can be issued [on Friday]", the spokeswoman said.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/netball...-of-the-season

[Davo36]

Safety safety safety!

[sidinz]

Thousands of Christchurch netballers have had their first game for the season axed due to the lack of a city council certificate allowing public use of a building.

"As always, public safety is paramount, and it is essential that due diligence is followed to ensure buildings can be safely occupied."......

Earlier on Friday, a council spokeswoman said it had not received the evidence it needed for the certificate.

Council staff had been working with CNC since February 8 and on Thursday had "not yet made a decision as to whether a certificate for public use can be issued [on Friday]", the spokeswoman said.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/netball...-of-the-season

I used to play down there on Saturday mornings. Back then, that building didn't exist. Didn't stop hundreds of games being played each week. Why didn't they just do without the kitchen/physio for one day? Sheesh.

[Davo36]

I used to play down there on Saturday mornings. Back then, that building didn't exist. Didn't stop hundreds of games being played each week. Why didn't they just do without the kitchen/physio for one day? Sheesh.

Yeah they said it was unsafe to do so. Farout we have become a bunch of softies haven't we?

[John the builder]

its the law
dont blame the council this time?

you can not open a public building without a CCC unless tou have a CoPU instead. Blame the builder?

[Shalodge]

mmmm .. fair statement Davo .. it just needs a little something extra....!!

Yeah they said it was unsafe to do so. Farout we have become a bunch of

Risk adverse, responsibility shirking, blame others, whining

softies haven't we?

[Davo36]

mmmm .. fair statement Davo .. it just needs a little something extra....!!


Risk adverse, responsibility shirking, blame others, whining

Not sure what your point is?

Do you mean we shouldn't be complaining about the council? Or that we are just whiny in general?