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  1. #2881
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    the last 2 Ak cup defences were a huge win for ak + nz

    An America's Cup economic impact study estimated Auckland's regatta in 2003 injected an extra $529m into the economy, about the same as the event in 2000.


    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/941...to-the-country

    which allowed the transformation of the viaduct area from a dodgy old fishing dock to the world class vibrant area it is today that more than pays its way

    so it's simply an economic no-brainer that investing in another cup defence would return similar gains

    but like chch council weren't up for rebuilding their own city...endless hand-wringing gets no where

    and needed a firm hand from wellington to get the job underway

    it seems ak council aren't up for much more than hand-wringing over something they've been begging for!

    do they need a firm hand from wellington to take over too?

    is wellington even up to it nowadays?

    if people can't handle "the buck stops here" responsibility + difficult decisions of governing

    then they shouldn't get into politics

    local or central
    Last edited by eri; 13-11-2017 at 09:57 AM.
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    The gains from these things are always overstated.

    The money goes to a few people. Most people in Auckland won't notice a difference.

    But I still think we should have it, it's a great event.

    I'd rather see money spent on this sort of thing than the other wasteful spending.
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    the rugby world cup

    the commonwealth games

    1 hit wonders requiring HUGELY expensive infrastructure

    that then bleeds money for years due to underuse

    eden park case in point

    the viaduct though has gone from strength to strength

    returning much more to the city that it cost

    and that's before the technological boom that has bootstrapped our marine industry into bespoke production of custom carbon fibre equal to the world's best

    its usefulness is much further reaching than America's Cup boats. Already it has milled tools for campervans and superyachts - even a disco ball and a full-size replica of a MIG29 to be used in a flight simulator.

    Core Builders Composites general manager, Tim Smyth, says the company has contracted for work to help build a railway overbridge, huge water-pipe junctions and "a two-metre teddy bear for the movie industry." He can see major opportunities in the energy industry.

    "Larry Ellison could have 'tooled up' in the United States, but the main reason we're tooling up here is the labour - the people.
    There's a level of expertise here that's only recently been recognised worldwide," says Coutts
    .

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/boating...illing-machine

    etnz's last boat was lighter + stronger that the others due to 'secret" cooking recipes of the carbon, produced by southern spars (viaduct)
    same tech can be used for cars, bikes, bridges, turbines

    http://www.sail-world.com/Australia/...e=google.co.nz

    labour + the greens always on about moving away from low value primary produce to high tech, smart growth, green industries, etc

    this is good as it gets
    Last edited by eri; 13-11-2017 at 04:36 PM.
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    Yes I agree.

    I wonder if we'll get as much value, or more as we did last time? Like will it be as good or better for the economy as it was last time. Time will tell I guess.
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    Seems this whole Vic Inglis thing was helped along by the CEO of Gore District Council, the tenant's daddy:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/991...enancy-dispute
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davo36 View Post
    Seems this whole Vic Inglis thing was helped along by the CEO of Gore District Council, the tenant's daddy:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/991...enancy-dispute
    I do think the fact that her Dad is CEO is a red herring.
    The information is public record - he didn't create it.
    May have helped that her support person was actually a lawyer.

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    Business owners furious at $16 million cycleway on Auckland's North Shore
    22 Nov 2017
    Quote Originally Posted by Stuff
    Roadworks for a council $16 million-dollar cycleway are hitting businesses hard in a historic Auckland suburb for the sake of a handful of cyclists, outraged owners say. Auckland Transport's project has resulted in traffic being diverted, and business entrances being blocked off, along Northcote Pt's main road, Queen St.

    "It's millions of dollars for a cycleway that is useless, because no one can cycle over the [Auckland Harbour] bridge," Bridgeway cinema general manager Steve Christodoulou said.
    The item refers to consultation . . .
    Quote Originally Posted by Stuff
    Auckland Transport said that there two rounds of public consultation were done in 2014 and 2016.
    . . . but we know how that works, don't we?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stuff
    Northcote Pt resident Jeremy Richards said 1600 people signed saying AT shouldn't go ahead with the construction.
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    Default Poor Things (It's the media & Councillors at fault!)

    Presuming the one-in-four figure has some basis in reality, it's interesting to speculate on what's really the cause. To also ponder - if things are that tough - why don't they find another job? Maybe some of the difficulties Ratepayers experience are directly co-related to the problems? That's as opposed to Ratepayers daily dealings with bureaucrats, some of whom readily exhibit Hitleresque tendencies. But all councils have those sorts.

    Civil servants suffering symptoms of depression at Auckland Council

    The expression civil servant can be deceptive, too. They are there to serve the Councillors, not the Ratepayers. Whether or not they're civil, probably depends on the day.
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    I don't go looking for these stories nowadays but someone on FB posted this:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/loc...nto-bankruptcy

    A couple of quotes:

    Auckland Council has confirmed the initial completion date of February 2018 will be pushed back indefinitely.
    The project's initial completion date was February 2018, however, Auckland Council decided to expand the scope of the project to include a number of extra improvements.
    The cost of repairing the culvert was estimated at $3.7 million, but with added improvements the total bill is now $15 million, with Auckland Transport (AT) footing half the bill.
    So you know, why spend $3.7 million and get the job done quickly when you can spend $15 million and take an indefinite amount of time?
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    And bugger a business in the process!
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