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    Default Desperate Measures

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirwee View Post
    Guess the airline is used that that kind of comment now.
    Quite likely. Go with the cheapest and passengers take their chances.
    I doubt krap kart cares in the slightest - they're not paid enough to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirwee View Post
    Perry, By the way, when was the last time you tickled the controls of an aircraft?
    A few years now, since my PPL was current, but I'm not offering to
    fly anyone anywhere for anything. Whatever, that's got absolutely
    nothing to do with the risks of going with the lowest-cost carrier.

    My experiences so far are such that I avoid Qantas and would only
    fly with the krap kart people if I was quite desperate and they were
    the only option.

    Some people seem to think they can pay Morris Minor prices and
    get Rolls Royce service. It can't be done, folks. (Here's your sign)
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    have found qantas

    quality
    have you defeated them?
    your demons

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    Thought you had taken to the skies Perry by some of the comments you had made in this thread.

    The comments made here about the shortage of pilots is true and it's not going to get better any time soon.
    Costs are prohibitive now and you have shell out huge coin to just get to your private licence let alone a commercial.
    When I started training back in 1967 the instructor didn't charge for a dual flight. (The dual and solo hire rates were the same)
    Today the local aero club Cessna 152 rates are $190/hour solo and $250/hour dual.
    We used to also be able to land at airports free of charge but the powers to be changed that and there are now landing fees.
    Then we had the political correct group at CAA make it so you had to a be a "fit and proper" person to hold a licence.
    Then we had BFRs.
    What I'm saying here is apart from the hire of the aircraft going up with inflation, maintenance and fuel costs you now have the above added to the cost of getting and maintaining the licence.
    Civil Aviation say that one of their roles is to foster civil aviation but sometimes that's hard to believe as some aero clubs have had to close their doors due to costs.

    For those wanting to learn to fly I have a story for you that may help you make a decision as to whether you want to go the General Aviation way or the Microlight way.
    I had a major medical condition that saw me stand down for ten years and then I decided to fight the Department to get my class 2 medical back.
    The doctor passed me fit and then had to fail me due to my previous medical issue saying I had to get an Accredited Medical Conclusion by the CAA doctors.
    This took five months and over $2000 but I got my class 2 medical.
    I did a couple of hours dual in the C152 and then the doctor phoned me to say CAA wanted my medical returned as the Accredited Medical Conclusion had taken five months to approve, but the law stated that I had to get the approval within 90 days.
    It was however CAA that directed me to certain specialists over that five month period knowing that I had to get approval within the 90 days period, and they did that to deny my the right to fly.
    My answer was simple; I went to my own doctor and passed a medical exam which allowed me to obtain a high performance micro-light aircraft certificate. The cost, about $49.00, as its the same as a bus drivers medical.
    As it turned out the Italian Tecnam P2002 microlight is an all metal modern design with an engine almost as powerful as a C152 but it uses 2/3 the fuel consumption and cruises about 20 knots faster. (Check out the Tecnam P2002 on the web at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkVHq_MjpXw
    With an instructor I was paying only $160/hour.
    The issue is for those wanting an airline career, the General Aviation way is the path you have to take, however I would encourage anybody who wishes to fly for pleasure to go the microlight way as you are outside of CAAs medical regime the same as the glider boys are.
    Cheers,
    Brian

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    Smart move from Air NZ - good publicity for them.

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    More from the "oh dear" department.

    Jetstar fined for deliberately ignoring order not to allow deported passenger to board
    23 May 2016
    Quote Originally Posted by Stuff
    A deportee was able to fly back to New Zealand after a Jetstar employee purposely spelt their name incorrectly to avoid an Immigration "do not board" warning. Jetstar was fined $12,000 at the Manukau District Court on Monday for letting the Chilean passenger board a plane from Bangkok to New Zealand, breaching the Immigration Act. The airline pleaded guilty to the charge, which carries a maximum fine of $50,000, at an earlier hearing.
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    Jetstar Flight Grounded: Hundreds Of Passengers Stranded In Melbourne, Bangkok
    14 July 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Stuff
    The airline said the return flight JQ29 Melbourne-Bangkok was cancelled because engineers needed to undertake work on the aircraft. As many as 335 people in Melbourne and the same number in Bangkok are affected by the cancelled flight. She said the delays were unfortunate but "safety is the top priority" and "these things happen from time to time".
    But it does seem to happen to some airlines more than others. Why wasn't the engineering work done when the aircraft was out-of-scheduled-service? When seats are cheap, I suppose the back-up aircraft and 'service-window' options are always going to be constrained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry View Post
    Jetstar Flight Grounded: Hundreds Of Passengers Stranded In Melbourne, Bangkok
    14 July 2016

    But it does seem to happen to some airlines more than others. Why wasn't the engineering work done when the aircraft was out-of-scheduled-service? When seats are cheap, I suppose the back-up aircraft and 'service-window' options are always going to be constrained.

    Fly with them at your peril.
    You are assuming that they knew of the work when it was 'out-of-scheduled-service'.
    I was on (or wasn't waiting) a flight to Shanghai - AirNZ - that was delayed 6-7 hours due to an engineering issue.
    Wasn't in the news.
    I suspect if it was Jetstar it could well have been.

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    A delay is bad enough. Cancelled is different.

    If you go with a minimalist airline, expect the minimum and you likely wont be disappointed.
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    I see both AirNZ and Jokestar are in the (bad) news again. (Not counting the AirNZ profit report)

    Why people still fly with the krapkart of the skies is beyond me. They still seem to expect Rolls Royce standards at Morris Minor prices.
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