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  1. #311
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    Sep 2004

    Default Every Airline Has Them

    (including a list of excuses)

    Communication Outage Causes Delays For Wellington Travellers
    27 December 2015
    Travellers were left frustrated at Wellington Airport after a network
    outage led to delays for Qantas passengers. The outage forced staff to
    check passengers in manually, leaving long lines and some passengers
    upset. Qantas spokeswoman Ingrid Just said a third-party network
    outage crashed the computer system.
    De-coding that:
    Because we use cheap outsourcing and are too parsimonious to have
    some appropriate back-up . . . .

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  2. #312
    Join Date
    Sep 2008


    like that poor malaysian pilot


    for asking why

    his 3rd party flight plan

    seemed to be sending his plane

    to the southern indian ocean

    and not KL
    Last edited by eri; 27-12-2015 at 08:40 PM.
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  3. #313
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    Sep 2004

    Default Another PR Disaster for Qantas and Their Maintenance

    Christchurch Family Unimpressed Following Problems With Qantas Flight
    8 Jan 2016
    Quote Originally Posted by Stuff
    A Christchurch couple have likened their experience on a Qantas flight
    to child abuse, after departure delays and problems with the airline's
    food service. The family began the journey home on Monday night, but
    "about 10 seconds into the acceleration there was a big bang". "We
    just taxied off and sat on the tarmac for about three hours waiting
    for something to happen. Their flight was rescheduled to leave
    Johannesburg at 11pm on Wednesday, but was delayed until 1am
    Thursday. "We got in there and it was really, really hot in the plane.
    "We actually had to strip the babies to keep them cool. It's actually
    unsafe to have babies in that kind of heat."

    The aircon began leaking after the plane took off, with water
    "basically . . . pouring out of the ceiling". "The aircon was all over
    the show. It was freezing." "There was also no food on that plane.
    Fifteen hours with no food," she said. "My sister had a 5-year-old and
    a 3-year-old and they didn't feed them. They eventually gave them
    a cupcake. The experience would have been "funny" if they did not
    have a child with them, Smith said.
    Related story here.
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  4. #314
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    Sep 2008


    qantas still the world's safest


    air nz in the top 20

    Top 20 airlines (alphabetical order, source: Airline Rating)
    Air New Zealand, Alaska Airlines, All Nippon Airlines, American Airlines, Cathay Pacific Airways, Emirates, Etihad Airways, EVA Air, Finnair, Hawaiian Airlines, Japan Airlines, KLM, Lufthansa, Qantas, Scandinavian Airline System, Singapore Airlines, Swiss, United Airlines, Virgin Atlantic and Virgin Australia
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  5. #315
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    Sep 2004

    Default Gilding The Lily?

    Nobody died, but they've had lots of accidents, close-calls and near-misses.
    But I suppose the judging panel has to have some sort of criteria to use.

    Qantas 'not meeting own safety benchmarks'
    The civil aviation watchdog has told Qantas to improve its aircraft maintenance systems
    after a series of problems with its planes. The Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) took
    a closer look at the national carrier after the incidents, including an emergency landing in
    Manila when an oxygen tank exploded mid-flight. "CASA wants Qantas to make a range of
    improvements to the way it manages and delivers aircraft maintenance following a special
    review carried out by the Civil Aviation Safety Authority,'' CASA said. "CASA has told the
    airline to produce a plan to address deficiencies in meeting some of its own maintenance
    performance targets.
    Unfortunately for Qantas, which celebrated it's 90th anniversary on
    Nov. 16, Rain Man is a little outdated as is the brand's impeccable
    image. Though there haven't been any fatal incidents in the interim,
    a series of close calls in the past two years has tarnished Qantas' once
    sterling reputation. One of the worst was an engine explosion on an
    A380 from Singapore to Sydney on Nov. 4, which resulted in an
    emergency landing and, later, in Qantas grounding its six A380s, two
    of which will be back in service on Saturday. The QF32 incident was
    just the start of an extraordinarily bad month for the airline. The
    day after, a 747 was turned back to Singapore after midair engine
    failure. On Nov. 12, a Boeing 767 was forced to turn back to Perth
    because of engine vibrations, and three days later, an Argentina-bound
    747 had issues with the electrical system and returned to Sydney.
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  6. #316
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    Mar 2007


    Qantas has had quite a number of fatal accidents during it's history.
    The last, as far as I can see, was in 1951.

    Just because something is in the movies does not mean it's true.

  7. #317
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    Sep 2004

    Default The Krap Kart of the Skies Strikes Again

    Jetstar Passengers Fuming After Regional Flights Cancelled
    7 March 2016

    Planeloads of Jetstar passengers were left stranded over the weekend after
    the low-cost carrier cancelled numerous regional flights due to a pilot shortage.
    Jetstar spokesman Phil Boeyen​ said the airline cancelled 10 out of 100 regional
    flights between Friday and Sunday due to two separate cases of pilot illness.
    Inadequate back-up, eh what?

    Karen Jackson said she would be reluctant to fly Jetstar again after her flight from
    Auckland to Palmerston North was cancelled. Not at all impressed with the service
    from the Jetstar airport staff members, or the 0800 help desk who were hard to
    understand, rude and not at all helpful, Jackson said. Sylvia Sue said she had two
    flights cancelled over the weekend and had to pay eight times the price to re-book
    with Air New Zealand.
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    The Law Of Business
    Itís unwise to pay too much, but itís worse to pay too little.
    When you pay too much, you lose a little money, that is all.
    When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything,
    because the thing you bought was incapable of doing what
    it was bought to do. The common law of business balance
    prohibits paying a little and getting a lot; it canít be done.
    If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something
    for the risk you run. And if you do that, you will have enough
    to pay for something better.
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  8. #318


    I see you commented about Jetstars cancellation of its Auckland to Palmerston North flight last week and one of the passengers commented to the papers that she would never fly Jetstar again.
    Guess the airline is used that that kind of comment now.

    By the way, when was the last time you tickled the controls of an aircraft?
    Last edited by Kirwee; 11-03-2016 at 01:25 PM.

  9. #319
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    Sep 2008


    according to the economist

    there is currently a shortage of commercial pilots


    training costs too high, starting pay too low

    so too many budget airlines have no pilot "slack" in the system

    pilots get sick

    flights get cancelled

    Get the same intensity of training as a mid-level engineer major - check.

    Get more testing and scrutiny and continuing education than a doctor - check.

    Have absolutely no career ladder once you leave a company and go to the next (e.g. you start at the bottom all over again -- no horizontal career movements) - check.

    Force you to live and/or work in a third world cesspool like NYC - check.

    Pay you 20,000 USD starting - check.

    Spend 50-80% of your life away from home - check.

    Forced to live in an illegal crashpad with 30 other people because your airline won't put you in a hotel - check.

    Get more radiation than a nuclear power worker by a wide margin without compensation - check.

    Work non-circadian hours that take decades of years off your life - check.

    Pay a huge percentage of your paycheck to an ineffective monopoly of a union (ALPA) - check.

    Why would ANYONE want to become a pilot nowadays?
    Last edited by eri; 11-03-2016 at 04:52 PM.
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  10. #320


    My cousin went through that, all of the above is true. Plus cancelled pensions and industry pressure on jobs.
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