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  1. #5511
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    Instead of using prisoners to work on getting roads built quickly, they take 7 years and clog up the roads, spending millions on Cones and cone hire and reports.
    So if you were in the roading business you'd be happy to have this happen? This is the problem, whatever industry the prisoners are put into, get's stuffed because they can't win against the free labour.

    Instead of planting 100's of thousands of fruit tree's to feed people, they plant natives, I mean WTF, how stupid.
    Biodiversity mate. It may not produce $$$ instantly, but we need much more of it.
    Squadly dinky do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry View Post
    I think that you have implicity identified the problem.

    Once NZ had a left and right option.

    The conservative (gNats) and labour.

    A pro-business or a pro-labour.

    A blue or a red.

    Now, all we have is a turbid, faeces-like, in-the-middle-coloured, murky, malodorous brown.

    I.e. the gNats trying to be Labour-like and Labour trying to look business-like.

    No good has or can come of either false facade.
    .
    This was the predicted outcome when MMP was introduced.
    A watered down, middle of the road consensus.
    Basically we've got a series of do-nothing governments.
    Who supports MMP these days?

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    What is this whole Nats vs Labour thing about anyway?

    What do they stand for? Really?

    Red vs Blue?

    What is at the heart of it?

    How did it all start?

    And where?

    How do you pick a side?

    And the government, the structure of it?

    Is it a third force on its own?

    It's structure exists and functions the same regardless, no matter if it has a red or blue tie on that day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Kane View Post
    This was the predicted outcome when MMP was introduced.
    A watered down, middle of the road consensus.
    Basically we've got a series of do-nothing governments.
    Who supports MMP these days?
    MMP may have exacerbated the trend, but I don't lay the primary blame with that change. The contest for the middle-of-the-road-political-spectrum thing started before MMP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluekiwi View Post
    Only give the dole and accommodation supplement out for 2 years max in Auckland, then if they want to stay on govt support.
    They have to move to a small town with over supply of housing.
    Which presents a problem - after they move there, how do you ensure that they stay there?
    Just get a cuzzy to collect the mail and pass it back up to the big city, take the $1 bus back down to the town when WINZ wants to see you.
    Easy peezzy.

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    you've got to realise

    labour's remit

    it to expand benefits for all

    presumably to be paid for by a very few frogs (net tax payers)

    who won't notice the temp of the pot increasing (increasing taxes)

    i'm picking people aren't frogs

    and they'll jump

    before they're cooked
    have you defeated them?
    your demons

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    Quote Originally Posted by eri View Post
    you've got to realise

    labour's remit

    it to expand benefits for all

    presumably to be paid for by a very few frogs (net tax payers)

    who won't notice the temp of the pot increasing (increasing taxes)

    i'm picking people aren't frogs

    and they'll jump

    before they're cooked
    Yessss and like National they want to import as many low-skilled workers as possible to keep wages down for businesses.
    Squadly dinky do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyernzl View Post
    Which presents a problem - after they move there, how do you ensure that they stay there?
    Just get a cuzzy to collect the mail and pass it back up to the big city, take the $1 bus back down to the town when WINZ wants to see you.
    Easy peezzy.
    But they won't be getting an accomodation supplement so a save there.
    No emergency grants either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PTILoveYou View Post
    Chinese sharemarket will crash sometime this year...
    Three years and six months on and what are the signs for November 2019?
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    interestingly

    this week the american yield curve flipped back to positive

    https://www.economist.com/united-sta...onger-inverted

    while it was always only another "reading of the tea leaves"

    like Orr's recent decision to NOT lower the OCR

    it's a better sign of a looming lost decades (japanese style)

    than incipient chaos

    we live in interesting times

    speaking of which

    have just opened a letter from david seymor inviting me to hear Orr speak next month in remuera

    presumably because david's my local mp and he wants both my votes next election

    why me and not the other 2 registered voters in the house?

    has ACT paid for some data matching???
    Last edited by eri; 16-11-2019 at 03:40 PM.
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