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    Quote Originally Posted by artemis View Post
    For example 573,900 households in private rentals and 1,086,700 private owner occupied dwellings.
    From which of those reports did you glean those figures?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry View Post
    From which of those reports did you glean those figures?
    Housing and Urban Development BIM

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    Thanks for sharing the link...

    Many factors in the report that point to other issues being a key driver of housing issues however our friends in the communist party only want to focus on their predetermined conclusion.

    From the report - 'Other social factors also contribute to people’s ability to access or sustain housing in the private marketsuch as addiction issues, mental health conditions and having a history of offending'

    The report says that there is a need to increase the number of private rentals... how do you get to the conclusion that you need to tax housing to make it more affordable

    From the report - 'Growing need for housing assistance cannot be effectively addressed without policy changes toincrease the supply of affordable housing for both ownership and private rental.' (emphasis added)


    Where is the plan to create a path out of the need to rely on social housing?

    The report also mentions a large number of HNZ houses (1621 homes roughly 2.5%) where the tenants are paying market rent - why, if there is so much demand for subsidised homes is anyone who can afford market rent allowed to stay in a home and not moved on to the private market?

    The report also says there are 5844 families looking for housing - if the 1621 houses occupied at market rates were made available to these people the waiting list would be reduced by nearly a third (28%) down to 4223 families nation wide.

    To put this into perspective this is under 10k people nationally who would be looking for housing support out of a population of roughly 5 million - or POINT 2 of a Percent (0.002%)
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    Quote Originally Posted by artemis View Post
    Housing and Urban Development BIM
    Thanks.



    It's not helpful that there are two very similar report titles.

    Like Don't believe the Hype, I found some of the observations quite telling. From the 'other' Report:

    HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT STATE/SOCIAL HOUSING

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    Demand for state/social housing is increasing rapidly, driven significantly (but not only) by declining housing affordability and a shortage of affordable housing for private rental or ownership? The number of eligible households waiting to be placed in state/social housing rose by 27 percent between September 2016 and September 2017, and by 72 percent between September 2015 and September 20171? Auckland accounts for the majority of applicants, but the greatest increases in demand are in other centres.

    State/social housing funded by central government makes up only around four percent of the total residential housing market in New Zealand and around 11 percent of the rental market, and is very costly. Growing need for housing assistance cannot be effectively addressed without policy changes to increase the supply of affordable housing for both ownership and private rental.

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    The challenges currently facing state/social housing are significant? A shortfall of housing in the private market, particularly in specific regions, is resulting in increased financial stress for low- to middle- income households, growing demand for state/social housing, increasing poverty rates for families with children and low-income single adults, and an increasing reliance on emergency and transitional housing.

    The most sustainable and cost-effective solution to many of the challenges currently facing state/social housing is improving the affordability and availability of housing in the private market, particularly by ensuring that housing supply responds effectively to demand.

    Officials would like to discuss your views on an appropriate level of supply and whether you would like to seek a greater level of supply from HNZC than currently proposed, as well as other options for new supply, including partnerships with community housing providers, local government and iwi? We would also like to discuss with you your manifesto commitment to increase the availability of houses to New Zealanders through KiwiBuild.
    Note: no partnerships suggested with private residential housing providers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don't believe the Hype View Post
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    The report also mentions a large number of HNZ houses (1621 homes roughly 2.5%) where the tenants are paying market rent - why, if there is so much demand for subsidised homes is anyone who can afford market rent allowed to stay in a home and not moved on to the private market?.............
    Back in 2011 the government introduced a policy of reviewable tenancies. There was previously no legal mechanism to terminate tenancies upon review. Since then, moving tenants paying market rent to the private sector has been a priority. But slow, as support to move on takes a while, especially when tenants cling on.

    Housing NZ and MSD (maybe IRD too, not sure) do share income information for state housing to make sure income related rents are properly set. A few high profile prosecutions for fraud in the last couple of years.

    Current government policy on terminations if market rent paid? No idea, but picking the policy will be quietly dropped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry View Post
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    Note: no partnerships suggested with private residential housing providers.
    Obviously the government prefers a partnership against private providers.

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    Red Team canít get their heads around the fact that people need to make a buck and will go to great lengths to try and solve problems with as few people making a profit as possible.

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    Except the red and envy-green MPs, of course.
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