Housing Crisis What Housing Crisis?

[artemis]

They get headlines but then what?
Why don't these turkeys build their own houses to the standard that they would like and then tell us how much it costs?

There is definitely something in what you say. End of the day, there are houses built to a wide range of specifications, and plenty have been maintained and upgraded over the years. It is not like there are no choices out there for renters and buyers.

(Having said that there are fewer choices these days for renters, and why is that?)

Many of us grew up in, rented and bought homes that were potentially cold, damp and mouldy. Our parents, then ourselves, just got on with it - heated, aired and cleaned. What changed?

[Don't believe the Hype]

in my hood we're seeing properties advertised as being compliant with the 2021 HHG requirements charging about a 10% premium on rent vs. the highest rents we had seen.

If nothing else it's a great marketing tool for Landlords... now it my market it is easier to explain to tenants why they should pay more ... you want the upgrade you pay the premium rent or wait till 2021 (or whenever it is) or 2025 if you want HNZ to provide you with your accommodation.

[eri]

Many of us grew up in, rented and bought homes that were potentially cold, damp and mouldy. Our parents, then ourselves, just got on with it - heated, aired and cleaned. What changed?

what changed

was a system

that realised that equal opportunity

would never lead to equal outcomes

and so is trying to move the goalposts to

"the responsible

are responsible

for the irresponsible"

confused?

you're not the only one

it's a tricky message sell

[Bob Kane]

Many of us grew up in, rented and bought homes that were potentially cold, damp and mouldy. Our parents, then ourselves, just got on with it - heated, aired and cleaned. What changed?

This is the age of entitlement.
Things should be provided in Rolls Royce quality - nothing second best for them.
If there's a fault, ask for compensation.

[Don't believe the Hype]

The housing crisis, as I've said many times on this forum, is not a housing crisis at all it's an expectation crisis. Here is a piece out of Aus that is the strongest example of expectation I've see.

Sydney-based social researcher Mark McCrindle says that, for many, being average today means “one car per adult, the option of private schools, overseas holidays every few years, a new smartphone each every couple of years and a device or two per child”.


But these average people want above average houses in above average suburbs that they paid below market price for...

https://www.theage.com.au/national/nsw/the-great-sydney-trade-off-finding-the-elusive-almost-mythical-sweet-spot-20190628-p522cs.html

[Davo36]

There is definitely something in what you say. End of the day, there are houses built to a wide range of specifications, and plenty have been maintained and upgraded over the years. It is not like there are no choices out there for renters and buyers.

(Having said that there are fewer choices these days for renters, and why is that?)

Many of us grew up in, rented and bought homes that were potentially cold, damp and mouldy. Our parents, then ourselves, just got on with it - heated, aired and cleaned. What changed?

What changed is that likely your mum was at home. And now the women all work.

So, no one at home to air the place out.

[Perry]

Housing Bubble About To Pop, Bryan Gould Predicts
24 June 2016

Just over three years on and how's it looking to y'all?

[eri]

brian's been howling for a righteous crash

of many things

for many years

Bryan Gould
bryangould.com
Bryan Charles Gould, CNZM is a former British politician. He served as a Member of Parliament from 1974 to 1979, and again from 1983 to 1994.
He was a member of the Labour Party's Shadow Cabinet from 1986 to 1994, and stood unsuccessfully for the leadership of the party in 1992.Wikipedia
Born:Bryan Charles Gould, 11, 1939, Hawera, New Zealand

Bryan Gould has co-authored a number of books, including
- A Charter for the Disabled (1981)
- Monetarism or Prosperity? (1981).
- Socialism and Freedom (1985)
- A Future for Socialism (1989)
- Goodbye to All That (1995)
- The Democracy Sham: How Globalisation Devalues Your Vote ( 2006)
- Rescuing the New Zealand Economy (2007)

He is currently working on a book on moral philosophy.

[Perry]

Govt data indicates renters should be feeling richer
25 July 2019

New data from the Government showing it's becoming more affordable to rent and buy houses has met with incredulity from economists.

I don't imagine that the astonishment and disbelief is confined to econ-o-mists.

Mind you, this 'announcement' is from the same loosely-organised-chaos-crowd that announced they were going to build 10,000 affordable houses a year, isn't it?

Do they really expect anyone to take them (and their data 'indications') seriously?

Lies, damned lies and government statistics.

Ground control to Major Coalition . . .

[artemis]

But Perry this is grand news. Landlords have room to put the rent up again. The government stats say so.

[Wayne]

But Perry this is grand news. Landlords have room to put the rent up again. The government stats say so.

Depends on where you are.
Auckland rents are now really unaffordable rather than really really unaffordable.
Statistics can tell any story you want them to.

[Perry]

Statistics can tell any story you want them to.

And don't the W'gton woodenheads know that and use it to extremes?!

[flyernzl]

Further to the above, consider this mornings Emerson Ihumatao cartoon in today's Herald.
Again, this cartoon reinforces the view that it is better that housing not be built, because if they are the developer just might make a profit out of the exercise.
So the homeless are still left homeless and shivering under Grafton Bridge out of envy/jealousy/sheer bloody-mindedness.

Madness!!

[Davo36]

Yep we are bringing in 70k people per annum and not building hardly any houses...

[Perry]

And now councils (being bored? / short of revenue?) are unleashing the red-tape fury on tiny homes.

Tiny houses could become 'glorified beer fridges' as council plans building code crackdown

Tiny home owner in legal stoush over building classification of his caravan

Tiny home consent 'mix up' forces couple to move from Auckland park

Doubtless there'll be more, too.

Overpasses and bridge approaches, next.