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    If you want to talk about being poor... you've got to be rich

    By Jarrod Booker
    5:30 AM Thursday Aug 26, 2010
    Cartoon / Peter Bromhead


    It's all about poverty, but a gathering to try to solve the problem is too pricey for many to join in.
    Critics say the entry cost of $2295 plus GST for the two-day Child Poverty New Zealand Summit in October is far too expensive for most frontline workers tackling the issue.
    But the organiser - the private company Conferenz - says it has to cover the costs of the Wellington summit, which will feature speakers from New Zealand and abroad.
    They will include Principal Family Court Judge Peter Boshier, former Cabinet minister John Tamihere and former Children's Commissioner Dr Ian Hassall.
    Discounts are available, but even with these, many groups say the conference is out of their reach.
    Playcentre Federation president Maureen Woodhams said her members were interested in it, but the cost was "astonishing".
    "It makes it impossible for people who are working with families and communities to attend.
    "We keep our operating costs to the bare-bones minimum so we keep the money with the families and the centres."
    Child Poverty Action Group director Janfrie Wakim said her organisation could not afford to attend the "very costly event", but would have individual contributors.
    Even with the discounts, "it's still beyond our means".
    Mr Tamihere also questioned the cost. "Is it too much? Of course it is. Should they be upset at not being able to be there? Probably. There's a question of cost to travel to the conference as well. So you are always going to deny access to people on the basis of their inability to make it."
    Often conferences were targeted more at policy-makers and bureaucrats who had the financial means, rather than frontline workers, Mr Tamihere said.
    The summit's senior marketing manager, Roy Maybury, of Conferenz, said everything possible was being done to make the conference accessible, but the costs of putting on an event with top speakers from New Zealand and overseas had to be met.
    "We do realise that the cost might be restrictive ... But we are trying to make it available to the smaller organisations."
    As well as the discounts, some passes had been given to organisations for people who could not afford to attend, Mr Maybury said.
    "It is quite hard, but we are trying our best to sort something out.
    "If people do really want to attend and are struggling, they can always give us a call and ... in certain cases, we can probably be a bit more lenient."
    PRICE OF POVERTY
    $2295
    What it costs: $2295 plus GST (or $1995 plus GST earlybird special).
    What you get: The Child Poverty New Zealand Summit website says the October 28-29 event aims to "provide a road map to better child policy outcomes". You'll also get lunch and morning and afternoon tea.
    Critics say the entry cost of $2295 plus GST for the two-day Child Poverty NZ Summit in October is far too expensive for most frontline workers.
    "There's one way to find out if a man is honest-ask him. If he says 'yes,' you know he is a crook." Groucho Marx

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    They will include Principal Family Court Judge Peter Boshier, former Cabinet minister John Tamihere and former Children's Commissioner Dr Ian Hassall.
    The summit's senior marketing manager, Roy Maybury, of Conferenz, said everything possible was being done to make the conference accessible, but the costs of putting on an event with top speakers from New Zealand and overseas had to be met.
    The highlighted statement may be true, but given the speakers listed, I hardly think that they have attracted 'top' speakers.

    Looks like Conferenz have been taking a leaf out of the Property Infotainment industry's book
    DFTBA

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    • #3
      yeah strange - and I could only see reference to one overseas speaker.

      Thanks NZ Herald - good reporting!

      Cheers,

      Donna
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      • #4
        I think they will be offered the limited chance to get in on the latest internet marketting system too.

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        • #5
          At work I'm on the Conferenz regular snail mail list. The cost is about the same for most conferences.

          Most conferences are targeted at the public sector and look like a fantastic money spinner for Conferenz, with a lot paid for from our tax dollars.

          As an penance for living off the tax payer they should hold some conferences in church halls with pot luck meals and billeting for accommodation.
          The Son of Glenn

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          • #6
            goes to show as well that "free seminars" are costing the hosts a lot

            if the cost is about $2000 person

            and only 1 in 10 of the seminar goers sign up

            does that mean the signers need to be charged an extra $20,000 somewhere along the line JUST to cover the costs of the seminar?

            food for thought

            as 1 of the big auckland auction companies says

            why not just go to an auction and buy 1 of the properties that spruikers are seeking to buy and flip to their seminar followers

            save yourself a lot
            Last edited by eri; 28-08-2010, 10:51 PM.
            have you defeated them?
            your demons

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            • #7
              I know it costs a not-for-profit group about $10,000 to hire the Wellington Duxton Ball Room for about 300 people for a weekend.
              Duxton's standard day-rate is $55 per per per day.

              At $1000 per person per day, I think there is plenty fat in the system.
              The Son of Glenn

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