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  • Farmers Protest 16 July 2021

    How many PT forumites added their presence? Two of the signs on my car:





    NO DAIRY FARMS - NO FLAT WHITES.

    Seems twitter followers 'dumped' on Comrade commissar Cindy in large numbers, with some 10K negative comments by 8.00am Sat., on her regular [artfully and carefully staged set-up] Friday evening BS 'post.'


    I do hope comrade commissar Cindy had a really bad w'end.




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    “Once in your life you need a doctor, lawyer, policeman, or preacher but every day — three times a day — you need a farmer.”

    Don't have any need for glorious communist leaders at all.
    The three most harmful addictions are heroin, carbohydrates and a monthly salary - Fred Wilson.

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    • #3
      Without climate change policies there won't be any farmers.
      Given that most of what they produce is exported when other countries impose extra tarrifs on us because of our lack of policy and progress the farmers will be demanding action!
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/...hit-nz-exports

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      • #4
        If there are no farmers; there will be no food; there will be no cities. Simple enough.

        If the cities perish and the countryside prospers, the cities will come again.
        If the countryside is laid waste, grass will grow in the streets of the cities.
        Primary production is the flywheel of the economic engine of NZ.

        Even moreso, now that international tourism is all but dead.

        How does that line go about a goose and golden eggs . . . .?

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        • #5
          Urban-dwellers' lack of knowledge on the work farmers do for the environment 'distressing'
          20 July 2021

          Always more than the one sided misinformation from the bought-and-paid-for-by-government-using-taxpayers'-money-NZ-mudstream-media-propaganda-machine.

          But at least that item was published!

          The gummint staff censor must've been away at lunch.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Perry View Post
            If there are no farmers; there will be no food; there will be no cities. Simple enough.
            I wonder how Singapore gets on?
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_Singapore.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Perry View Post
              Urban-dwellers' lack of knowledge on the work farmers do for the environment 'distressing'
              20 July 2021

              Always more than the one sided misinformation from the bought-and-paid-for-by-government-using-taxpayers'-money-NZ-mudstream-media-propaganda-machine.

              But at least that item was published!

              The gummint staff censor must've been away at lunch.
              You really do show your ideological bent and bias and do yourself a disservice.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Wayne View Post
                If Singapore imports food, somewhere, a farmer must export it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Wayne View Post
                  You really do show your ideological bent and bias and do yourself a disservice.
                  I remain, etc., etc., yours, unconcerned.

                  At least everyone knows where I stand.

                  If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.

                  Are you unaware of how comrade commissar Cindy has captured the NZ mudstream media? I have references available, if you need them.


                  Specifically, $55M in tax-payer-funded handouts, so long as they do as she tells them. Announced by comrade commissar FarGoneBoy, some time back.

                  The first round of graft handouts was announced recently.
                  Last edited by Perry; 20-07-2021, 07:02 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Perry View Post
                    Specifically, $55M in tax-payer-funded handouts, so long as they do as she tells them. Announced by comrade commissar FarGoneBoy, some time back.
                    I would like to see a link to what the conditions were of the 'helping hand', given when media just about failed totally.

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                    • #11
                      This reminds me of the baby Orca Toa.. lost from it's mother.

                      Humans mean well unfortunately they have only made matter's worse by caring for it, similar to us Maori being dependent on welfare...

                      Eventually like Toa ,the poor baby Orca, is going to need to have a bullet through the head because it hasn't learned how to survive on its own and would most likely die a stressful slow death by itself in the open sea .
                      ​​​
                      Stupid selfish caring Humans.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Wayne View Post
                        I would like to see a link to what the conditions were of the 'helping hand', given when media just about failed totally.
                        As always the devil is in the detail. Detail that's difficult to find. Wonder why?

                        Have a look at section 3, page 2 of this document. Rampant, rabid racism. Note the "must" and "all" injunctions.

                        One person's attempt to clarify - like it or not.

                        Other links of modest merit.

                        https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/...est-journalism

                        https://mch.govt.nz/mi/node/8771

                        https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/progr...re-of-our-news

                        https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/progr...jects-unveiled

                        https://www.newsroom.co.nz/page/good...lars-for-media
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Jeffa View Post
                          This reminds me of the baby Orca Toa.. lost from it's mother.

                          Humans mean well unfortunately they have only made matter's worse by caring for it, similar to us Maori being dependent on welfare...

                          Eventually like Toa ,the poor baby Orca, is going to need to have a bullet through the head because it hasn't learned how to survive on its own and would most likely die a stressful slow death by itself in the open sea .
                          ​​​
                          Stupid selfish caring Humans.
                          How have they made matters worse?
                          The baby Orca was destined to die if left, now it might die anyway - that isn't worse.
                          That is possibly the same outcome but there was hope.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Perry View Post
                            As always the devil is in the detail. Detail that's difficult to find. Wonder why?

                            Have a look at section 3, page 2 of this document. Rampant, rabid racism. Note the "must" and "all" injunctions.
                            Yes, the devil is in the detail - AND in the context.
                            You basically stated that the funding meant that the media had to do as Ardern said.
                            But, in truth, the funding is for projects, not just general maintenance of the media.
                            In the background statement, it says
                            "In January 2021 Cabinet agreed to draw down $55 million over the next three years (2021 - 2023) from the tagged contingency set aside by Cabinet for broadcasting initiatives. This funding will be administered by NZ On Air to support the production of public interest journalism including Māori and Iwi journalism that is relevant to and valued by New Zealanders."
                            So, if you want funding for a particular project you have to follow the goals set out in section 3.

                            You can carry on with any "Rampant, rabid racism" in your other articles - just not ones paid for the state (after all 'rabid racism' does noone any good really).

                            Try thinking past your ideology and rabid hate of the current Govt.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Wayne View Post
                              But, in truth, the funding is for projects, not just general maintenance of the media.
                              In truth, eh? Whose 'truth' might that be?

                              Maori journalism projects and a new training initiative are the major beneficiaries of the first $10m, but some of the money goes to things already funded from the public purse.
                              (Sound like general media maintenance, to you?)

                              It may be nice to take a rosy and/or optimistic view, but it is naive to not see past the window dressing and perceive the reality of what's going on.

                              Originally posted by RNZ
                              At a NZ on Air summit in June, NZ on Air’s recently appointed Head of Journalism Raewyn Rasch told media representatives she was disappointed by some of the applications.

                              “We are also particularly conscious of the need for more diversity, and Māori, Pacific, and Asian journalism,” she told BusinessDesk in June.

                              Participants were also told they had failed to fully grasp the need to collaborate.

                              [ https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/progr...jects-unveiled ]
                              The fund is almost totally racially biased and so its 'projects' will reflect that. Either 'collaborate' or get no money. Not "comply with the fund conditions required" - no. Collaborate. Be a gummint collaborateur.


                              Maori and Iwi journalism

                              Maori and Iwi journalism is made by Maori about Maori perspectives, issues, and interests prioritising the needs of Maori.

                              Maori and Iwi journalism create a space and platform to give voice and representation to Maori, Iwi, hapu and hau kainga; Maori content, language, and perspectives on all issues deemed relevant locally, nationally, and internationally.

                              This spectrum of reporting is integral to the protection of te ao Maori under article 2 of Te Tiriti o Waitangi and includes (but is not limited to) focus areas such as;

                              ● Te reo Maori and tikanga
                              ● Political matters*
                              ● Historical accounts
                              ● Profile-based reporting
                              ● Tangihanga
                              ● Maori interest
                              ● Sports (Ki O Rahi, Waka Ama, Touch Nationals etc.)
                              ● Civil Emergencies

                              *Maori and Iwi journalism and reporting is innately political in nature. This is especially true in the context of iwi, hapu, and whanau politics as well as ensuring a plurality of voice for Maori within a national political sphere is heard.
                              There is absolutely nothing in Article 2 of the Treaty of Waitangi, as is baldy alleged in the detail quoted above.

                              But there was a small concession . . . maybe some readers might not be brain dead.

                              The first tranche of the government’s $55 million Public Interest Journalism Fund has been allocated - against a backdrop of criticism it could skew reporting of political issues.

                              Minister of Broadcasting Kris Faafoi insisted that the fund would be dispensed at arm’s-length from all politicians. The government’s broadcasting funding agency NZ On Air has that job, though its board members are appointed by Minister Faafoi.
                              Who does FarGoneBoy think he's kidding?
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