Banned: Rental bidding; No reason giv terminations plus Rent Increases Min. Annually.

[artemis]

Read the whole sob story . . . but not too soon after breakfast, nor if you have a delicate stomach. ....

I read the article and my first thought was smart landlord to get shot of an angry difficult tenant - who says openly might not be able to pay any rent increase - before new rules come in relating to fixed term tenancies. Act now or be stuck with her forever ....

Second thought - one adult, one offspring, $620 a week? Must be seriously flash. Median rent for 2 bedroom house in Glenfield (Tenancy Services) $490. Even upper quartile is not much more. (Only used
Glenfield as she mentioned the suburb.)

[Perry]

Oh, dear, Artemis. You iconoclast, you.

Puhleeze do not get messy facts get in the way of a good media beat up.

[Keys]

Anybody know what the interest rates are on car HP's?

Lenders check credit history and give interest rates to the borrower to balance the risk taken in lending to a potential bad payer. Those that "do" pay back at a higher rate subsidize the ones whom the lender has to chase for their money. The lender may even lose their money.

Now, I wonder ...............................

Any reaction to a different rent rate for those tenants who are deemed to be high risks?

Interesting times ahead.

[OnTheMove]

Going back to the op's original post. I think most of that is fair and makes sense. But Im not sure all is fair ie trashed houses and recoup costs via inland revenue.

As long as LL rights are being equally looked after. Im not sure if that is the case.

But one thing springs to mind, not all socio economic based suburbs act the same, people do choose to buy property there, as unfair as it is, if after great ROI in a lower economic suburb, then things come at a risk to that.

Thats where landlords rights need protection.

[Perry]

That's where LLs' rights need protection.

Certainly that's not so in the empty heads of the current crop of socio-commie-clowns in the drones house.

As for protection - you jest?

If anything, LLs need protection from the aforesaid crop of socio-commie-klutzes in W'gton.

[OnTheMove]

Lol Perry I sense you are getting a tad cynical hehe.

Is it just the Labour commies or the National ones too you think we need protection from?

[OnTheMove]

"Improve tenant’s security by removing a landlord’s right to use no cause terminations to end a periodic tenancy agreement."

Does that mean the LL simply has to have a suitable reason to end a periodic tenancy?

ie I'm greedy and I want to lock somebody new into an insanely over inflated price :-p

hehe, now I jest. Who knows what they really think LLs think

But if that is the case surely its not hard to just come up with any old reason to terminate? So what's the point?

[Perry]

But if that is the case surely its not hard to just come up with any old reason to terminate? So what's the point?

The TT Kangaroo Kourt will decide what's an acceptable reason to it and tenants.

Not you.

[Perry]

Res. Rentals, Hotels, Motels & Camping Grounds

Lol Perry I sense you are getting a tad cynical hehe.

Is it just the Labour commies or the National ones too you think we need protection from?

Getting?

Sceptical? Yes.

Cynical? Maybe later. And maybe soon enough.

Yes, LLs need protection from any and all gummints.

Some more than others.

Question: as has oft been observed hereabouts, of all businesses in NZ, why is the provision of [private] residential rental accommodation subject to such flagrantly abusive business and taxation laws? (Think [among others] Faecesbook, Shitstagram, Pootube, Taxibaba, Taxazon, Swindle, etc?)

Answer: populist votes and becoming the gummint and getting a great pay rate for producing almost nothing positive for NZ or its economy.

As I've commented before: if the people will lead the way, eventually, the gummint will follow. (So long as it does not have an adverse effect on their pay and perks, of course.)

Think about it. Seriously. Given the number of motel units housing those who were going to reside in the ten thousand affordable houses per year to be built by comrade Taxcindarella, Dhil Twitford et al - the current socio-commie-clowns - do you imagine (for a milli-second) that the moteliers are subject to the RTA, the same taxation-specific laws and the TT Kangaroo Kourts?

Hell, no!

Socialism is such a splendid thing, right??

[OnTheMove]

You could shorten that to G-Nits, sounds a bit more millenial haha.

I think there is socialism throughout every G-nit, so I just vote for somebody who is trying to improve things I personally appreciate.

People often mean well but end up taking sides by actions, Im not sure where one side sits in the tenant/LL scale as far as rights are concerned. I see the tenants issues and agree with a lot of them, but I see a lot of LL concerns not being thought about.

A fair system seems unfair no matter what they try. There are also greedy LL's who will want more no matter how much the scale of rights sits on their side, for them I care less, for the people just wanting a fair go, I do think there needs more work done.

[Perry]

The numbers have been debated before, but - for the purposes of this post - we'll agree on 6% scumbag LLs and 14% scumbag tenants.

So - saith the socio-commies - let's ostracise, vilify and penalise 100% on the basis of the few tenants and LLs who are reprobates.

[Perry]

More Sad Stories

Read the earlier sob story . . . back here.

Today's freshet of t . . .

Renting in NZ: 'This is an incredibly stressful way to live'
21 Dec 2019

Why is it that there's so little reference to the current crop of socio-commie clowns being the primary - if not sole - cause of all this grief and woe?

[sidinz]

Today's freshet of t . . .

Renting in NZ: 'This is an incredibly stressful way to live'
21 Dec 2019

Why is it that there's so little reference to the current crop of socio-commie clowns being the primary - if not sole - cause of all this grief and woe?

More than one of those stories looked like a clear case of the LL either selling up due to current policies or getting rid of the current tenant while they still can.

For example, the one crying foul because they've been there four years but the LL said they weren't planning to see for 20. Well, when they said that, it was before all the current meddling. They probably had every intention of holding for that long but are now getting out, yet ironically, the very govt that caused this is the one being lauded for trying to do something about tenancies being ended!

[sidinz]

"Improve tenant’s security by removing a landlord’s right to use no cause terminations to end a periodic tenancy agreement."

Does that mean the LL simply has to have a suitable reason to end a periodic tenancy?

ie I'm greedy and I want to lock somebody new into an insanely over inflated price :-p

hehe, now I jest. Who knows what they really think LLs think

But if that is the case surely its not hard to just come up with any old reason to terminate? So what's the point?

You have clearly not seen the list of 'acceptable' reasons for ending a tenancy. It is short. You basically have the tenants for life.

[OnTheMove]

You have clearly not seen the list of 'acceptable' reasons for ending a tenancy. It is short. You basically have the tenants for life.

IF the LL is protected by things such as reputable tenants and by treating the property with care, I think that is ideal. Its when you wind up with 14% Perry eludes to, what is the legality around removing such tenant? (ie holes in the wall, carpet stains due to parties not accidents etc)

I do agree re the case about the people intending to keep as you said but bailed out.

However, I have been in the situation where a LL has listed a property and then put it on the Market 1 month later and advised me personally he had intended to all along, as I was stuck due to work it took me 3 months to find suitable accommodation, it took him 7 months to sell. 3 months of 24 hours notice walk ins and weekly viewings when you KNOW you are going to sell the property is pretty crappy morally.

In that situation I do think LL's should have to advertise with the intent to sell and the property be discounted as such. Cant have ya cake and eat it too and not be called a scummy LL (not refering to you Sidinz about this topic, just general thoughs on it).

Ive never faced this situation of advertising to rent and then putting on Market, it does make me think in hind site I should have asked why the prior tenant was leaving, but would I expect an honest answer from a REA? that is too Lols.

I have however had to advise tenants of intent to sell and then I just discounted their rent while the process occured, gave them full notice when sold so they had plenty of time to find somewhere. But that is in Qld where houses are easy to rent.

If only the legal system could make it so that both parties just act like decent human beings, ie compassionate and on the tenants side understanding. The 14 and 6% like all things being the minority ruins it for all.