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  • #61
    Originally posted by Perry View Post
    So, in your opinion - everyone - will you no longer consider any WINZ-supported applicants?
    Around 10% of working age get a Gov't hand out.

    There were 299,472 working-age people in receipt of a main benefit as at the end of September 2019
    Source

    There's a bar graph - show's decrease with JK was in, the increase with JA.

    In Kapiti, the majority of tenants are getting a benefit. Very low wage economy.

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    • #62
      As I was doing other things today, I mused on the [official bullshit figures that] xxx percentage of kiwis now rent, rather than own, compared to yesteryear. (Gen. Rent by Shammy)

      If ever there was a statistic that was open to political and statistical manipulation, that's one.

      Rent for how long?

      Own for how long?

      Solo or with other contributors to the rent payable?

      Probably other things, too.

      Stats scumbags, all.

      Long, long ago, when I was first married, I went from renting to owning in around 18 years. And I had family fiscal help to become an owner. Whether of not the 'family benefit' of seven shillings and sixpence a week was capitalised as part of that process, I can't recall. But there was a stamp duty exemption for a first home purchase that saved quite a few dollars.

      For the more-now-rent-than-own figures to have any relevance, or even accuracy, the when, where, how and how long need to be shown.
      Last edited by Perry; 20-11-2019, 04:42 PM.
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      • #63
        The number of people receiving a main benefit by the end of September 2019 was 15,157 more, or 5.3 percent higher when compared to September 2018. The increase in numbers was mostly driven by a 10.2 percent increase in the number of people receiving Jobseeker Support.
        Oh yes, and all we hear in the main stream media is how low unemployment is.

        From the site Donna linked to: https://www.msd.govt.nz/about-msd-an...-benefits.html
        Last edited by Davo36; 20-11-2019, 07:17 PM.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by annie brookes View Post
          Ok so I don’t like losing the flexibility of the 90 notice even though I haven’t used it in nearly ten years. But I seem to be reading in the HUD faqs that assignment to new tenants cannot be unreasonably turned down. That feels like a bigger risk to me since the reasons I might not accept a tenants suggested replacement can be quite subtle and not easy to explain. Any thoughts on that one? Will I eventually not be the one choosing the tenants?
          Assignment seems to refer only to fixed term tenancies, but since these turn into periodic under the proposed policy, landlords are stuck with the assignees unless other termination causes are met. I see what the government is trying to do here - allow tenants to get out of a FTT without (much) penalty. In practice, if a landlord declines a proposed assignment the existing tenants will have to take a case to the Tenancy Tribunal to get it overturned. That will be interesting, even amusing actually - what will count as reasonable or unreasonable. That will need clear guidelines and is not going to be black and white.
          Last edited by Perry; 22-11-2019, 09:31 AM. Reason: fixed typo

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Perry View Post
            As I was doing other things today, I mused on the [official bullshit figures that] xxx percentage of kiwis now rent, rather than own, compared to yesteryear. (Gen. Rent by Shammy)

            If ever there was a statistic that was open to political and statistical manipulation, that's one.

            Rent for how long?

            Own for how long?

            Solo or with other contributors to the rent payable?

            Probably other things, too.

            Stats scumbags, all.

            Long, long ago, when I was first married, I went from renting to owning in around 18 years. And I had family fiscal help to become an owner. Whether of not the 'family benefit' of seven shillings and sixpence a week was capitalised as part of that process, I can't recall. But there was a stamp duty exemption for a first home purchase that saved quite a few dollars.

            For the more-now-rent-than-own figures to have any relevance, or even accuracy, the when, where, how and how long need to be shown.
            Immigration has a large impact on renting numbers. The last decade or two would, logically, see a large increase in this population given most immigrants to NZ will rent for at least a few years and many are coming from lower wage economies than will mean they need a significant amount of time to earn enough to consider becoming home owners.

            No one is going to talk too much about that of course.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by elguapo View Post
              Immigration has a large impact on renting numbers. The last decade or two would, logically, see a large increase in this population given most immigrants to NZ will rent for at least a few years and many are coming from lower wage economies than will mean they need a significant amount of time to earn enough to consider becoming home owners.

              No one is going to talk too much about that of course.
              Well said - it's visible - the new and upgraded rental stock doesn’t help these people.
              Fake stats don’t masks increasing numbers of homelessness, people on benefits, increased demand of emergency housing and problems in communities and businesses alike (gang membership, burglaries, labour shortage e.g. in Hawke Bay). How naïve have people to be?

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              • #67
                Insert any cuss word you like here ! ! !
                They have no data!
                On the FAQ regarding the new RTA on page 8. And I quote:
                "The 2018 General Social Survey found that 25 percent of tenants who had moved in the past five years did so because their landlord ended the tenancy"
                Having asked under the OIA I am now in receipt of the answer to the following:
                The number, expressed as a percentage, of tenants who have moved in the past five years as a result of a 90 day, no reason, notification.
                The answer from the Stats NZ was, and I quote:
                "We did not collect data on renters moved because of a 90 day, no reason, notification."
                Yet again. NO ****** DATA!
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                • #68
                  So is this a lie to pass on to Ms Collins?
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Perry View Post
                    So is this a lie to pass on to Ms Collins?
                    Goes with the request I made of the Government and replied to on September 6th 2019. No data.
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                    • #70
                      I'm meeting my MP on Wednesday
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                      • #71
                        Gummint Mendacity Releases

                        Has anyone waded through / found more about these "new tools" and "penalty amount increases" to see if it's only LLs targeted with said "new tools" and "increased penalties?"

                        The day this current crop of socio-commie-clowns does anything that's fairer for LLs will be the day Taxcindarella joins the gNats.



                        Fairer rules for tenants and landlords

                        Improve compliance with the law by increasing financial penalties and introducing new tools to take direct action against parties who are not meeting their obligations.


                        The Regulator will have new compliance tools to take direct action against parties who are not meeting their obligations. The penalty amounts will be increased in line with rental increases since 2006, when the penalty amounts were set.


                        One presumes that "the regulator" is the Landlord Compliance & Prosecution Team, headed by Steve Watson. The man who admitted here that they chase LLs, not tenants, despite claiming to monitor and enforce compliance with the Residential Tenancies Act 1986. As in, compliance by all, not just one sector.
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Keys View Post
                          Goes with the request I made of the Government and replied to on September 6th 2019. No data.
                          Are you referring to this?

                          Did you get a response and I've missed it?
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Perry View Post
                            Are you referring to this?

                            Did you get a response and I've missed it?
                            Pretty sure that is the one.

                            I have another one out there at the moment asking HNZ about tenancies where they have received complaints from neighbors and what they have done about anti social behavior. Again, I am not holding my breath.


                            Edited to add:

                            Wednesday, 4 December 2019

                            The Labour Government are suggesting that removal of a 90-day no reason given notification to terminate tenancies is going to happen soon.

                            Landlords are being given the option to have tenancies terminated if tenants behave in an antisocial manor on more than two occasions in a 90-day period. This will have to be done by court order.

                            Housing New Zealand (HNZ) has hundreds of thousands of properties throughout New Zealand.

                            I wish to enquire about complaints received from neighbours of HNZ properties regarding antisocial behaviour of HNZ tenants.

                            For the city council areas of the following cities:

                            Whangarei
                            Auckland
                            Hamilton
                            Rotorua
                            New Plymouth
                            Hawks Bay
                            Motueka
                            Wellington
                            Christchurch
                            Timaru
                            Dunedin
                            Invercargill

                            I ask the following:

                            Pursuant to the Official Information Act 1982:

                            For the calendar year 01/12/2018 to 01/12/2019 and for each city noted above:

                            How many HNZ rentals are in each city?
                            How many complaints have been made about tenants of HNZ in each city?
                            Are there any tenants who have had multiple complaints made against them?
                            How many tenants have had multiple complaints made against them.
                            Please list the number of tenants who have had multiple complaints made against them in the following order:
                            1 to 10 complaints
                            11 to 20 complaints
                            21 to 30 complaints
                            31 to 40 complaints

                            For those in excess of 40 complaints please note the maximum number of complaints.
                            Please list the ten highest number of complaints (without reference to their actual address).
                            For the previously noted list of ten, what steps have been taken to remedy the issue which the complainants’ have brought to HNZ notice?

                            Kind Regards
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                            • #74
                              So, on the basis of questions you've asked and the answers you're received so far, what are the assertions made by the W'gton woodenheads and their functionaries (incl. claims made in discussion documents, etc.), that they have admitted are devoid of the requisite data needed to support those assertions?
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                              • #75
                                It Just Gets Worse & Worse & More Nauseating

                                Read the whole sob story . . . but not too soon after breakfast, nor if you have a delicate stomach.

                                Landlady-turned-renter: Time for the Government to step in to tackle 'greed'
                                18 Dec 2019

                                Originally posted by Karen Cameron / Stuff
                                I don't know why the Government doesn't step in and do something. They're going to have to pick up the pieces when people fall into trouble… you can see why people end up living in their cars.
                                Well, Karen, the socio-commie gummint of the moment IS doing something. You haven't noticed? Silly you!

                                According to pre-election 'promises,' the socio-commie gummint of the moment is building 10,000 affordable houses-a-year. [Satirical hysterical, laughter re scapegoat Dhil Twitford's off-the-planet-earth's insane mumblings.]

                                Two years later, not 20,000, but less than 500! Aint socialism great!

                                Ground control to Major Dhil . . . .

                                According to pre-election 'promises,' the socio-commie gummint of the moment is increasing LL's costs [Which get passed on to tenants. Shock! Horror! Check with the soon-to-be-de-appointed patron of the Unmarried Mothers' Society - one Taxcindarella.]

                                According to pre-election 'promises,' the socio-commie gummint of the moment is increasing tenants' 'rights,' [Which is reducing the availability of residential rentals for tenants]

                                According to pre-election 'promises,' the socio-commie gummint of the moment is making it difficult / impossible for LLs to evict problem tenants. [Which - together with reducing the availability of residential rentals - is increasing rents for tenants]

                                GET A LIFE, Karen! (aka If you don't want it to get worse, then, in 2020, don't vote: Labour-supports-loafers / commie-Green-envious-drag-everyone-down-to-the lowest-possible-level-party / Winston First we-abandoned-our-promises-because-not-enough-people-voted-for-us-comic-opera-crowd.
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