Healthy Homes Guarantee Act standards announced

[flyernzl]

Interesting that when private landlords indicate that the Healthy Homes requirements will increase costs and therefore rents they are abused and told to 'be fair.' Yet the requirements are now having the same effect on Council social housing:

"Rent hike: 'How's a poor old pensioner meant to make do?'

Council tenants in Owaka are calling for a meeting with officials to discuss their anxiety over rents, which are expected to soar by as much as 90% next year.

Figures for the proposed rent increases for the council's 97 community housing units were provided in a report during its meeting last week.

The report forms part of the council's rental review for the units, which provide housing for lower-income residents, including many pensioners.

Because the council must comply with the Government's healthy homes standards (HHS) by July 1 next year, the report says, this means the Owaka single-unit rent will soar to $173 a week (up 90%), to make the units, and any refurbishment, self-funding"

https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/south-...-meant-make-do

[donna]

I'm struggling with the max 3mm gap for windows and doors. It's crazy and not as easy as just putting in some draft stop as we've found that can prevent windows from closing and the gap ends up being more -

[Wayne]

Thanks,
Well disaster averted somewhat, my fire guy came back and said that fire is actually 18kw. So the compliance company said they will pass it.
But still totally crazy.
Another interesting point though, also on the report is that it DOESNT need a moisture barrier sheet, as it has good underfloor ventilation.
This is not my understanding of the standard, but I'm not going to complain.
Might be something to look into for others.

Cheers,
Mike

Re the moisture barrier - not all places need it.
If it has a standard ring foundation (ie enclosed with just the little grill vent every few metres) then it will need it.
A lot of places where the floor is higher off the ground have timber around the underfloor - they often don't need it.

I'd still be asking for their calc sheet - 18kW is a lot of heat requirement unless the lounge opens to a stairway or isn't actually closed off.

[divxmaster]

Thanks,
Well disaster averted somewhat, my fire guy came back and said that fire is actually 18kw. So the compliance company said they will pass it.
But still totally crazy.
Another interesting point though, also on the report is that it DOESNT need a moisture barrier sheet, as it has good underfloor ventilation.
This is not my understanding of the standard, but I'm not going to complain.
Might be something to look into for others.

Cheers,
Mike

[artemis]

Can you or someone else local do the measurements etc and test the output against the HUD app result? If the result is significantly different request an explanation from the PM (and a refund).

ETA - and what Wayne said.

[Wayne]

Well I think I now know where all the 'meth assessor' charlatans went to. Healthy homes compliance companies.
Just got my first assessment. Lounge size, 30-40sqm (house is only 100sqm). Location Wairarapa.
Assessed heating requirement for lounge:

18.3KW

No, I am not joking.

Cheers,
Mike.

Ask to see the actual calculation sheet.

[divxmaster]

maybe you can name and shame the company, so we can avoid them aswell

Not sure if that is allowed?
The room has an existing 14KW log burner. i.e, a big one, which they say is not enough. crazy.

[mrhaboobi]

yeah, and my property manager has already paid these monkeys $171 on my behalf.

maybe you can name and shame the company, so we can avoid them aswell

[divxmaster]

yeah, and my property manager has already paid these monkeys $171 on my behalf.

[mrhaboobi]

Well I think I now know where all the 'meth assessor' charlatans went to. Healthy homes compliance companies.
Just got my first assessment. Lounge size, 30-40sqm (house is only 100sqm). Location Wairarapa.
Assessed heating requirement for lounge:

18.3KW

No, I am not joking.

Cheers,
Mike.

really lol... do you have a room with no walls no insulation and maybe just plastic wrapped.. thats insane.

[divxmaster]

Well I think I now know where all the 'meth assessor' charlatans went to. Healthy homes compliance companies.
Just got my first assessment. Lounge size, 30-40sqm (house is only 100sqm). Location Wairarapa.
Assessed heating requirement for lounge:

18.3KW

No, I am not joking.

Cheers,
Mike.

[PC]

And of course the standard completely misses the point that the vast majority of people dont sit in their living room at 4am or whenever the coldest part of the day is.

That's exactly where the student communist movement leaders spend their evenings. Plotting how to make us the next workers paradise with them as the glorious leader....

[divxmaster]

And of course the standard completely misses the point that the vast majority of people dont sit in their living room at 4am or whenever the coldest part of the day is.

[mrhaboobi]

So we all need hypercore - they are constant output to -15

yes that is what i was suggested. However Hypercore only make up to 6KW. above that its not hypercore. and it would be pretty poor to have a standard that relies on one brand being able to make a specific product..

[Wayne]

Read this page the section on Hyper core to understand what i'm pointing out about the power degrading

https://www.mitsubishi-electric.co.n...all-heat-pumps

So for me to achieve 6.3KW of heat when its -4 degrees outside ( as per the requirements given in the calculator ) i actually need to buy a 9 KW heat pump to account for the performance loss,

So we all need hypercore - they are constant output to -15