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  • Originally posted by Perry View Post
    Licensing property managers should be a priority for the government, said Kevin Edmunds, of property management firm Quinovic, in Thorndon, Wellington
    Originally posted by elguapo View Post
    It's almost like Quinovic stands to profit greatly from licencing property managers.
    I imagine what they'd like to see (but will not say) is that DIY-PM-PIs will be forced to use a licenced PM.

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    • The fact is that in a strange sort of way we have rules which lead to people sleeping in cars rather than sub standard houses.
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      • Property Institute of New Zealand Chief Executive Ashley Church has announced plans to transform the residential property management sector in New Zealand by bringing the Independent Property Managers Association under the umbrella of the Institute – a move that he says will be a ‘game-changer’ for the sector.
        http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU180...me-changer.htm

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        • Seems an odd thing. I wonder what's really behind it?

          Will REAs be expected to join up?

          After all, they already have their own little wet-bus-ticket group.

          My guess is that the IPMA folks will already be of a better standard than REA outfits.

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          • Topgun Property Management look like a good outfit to bring into the fold.

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            • Originally posted by article
              “Our members already represent the pinnacle of our sector and are excited at the opportunity to grow professionally and be part of an organisation that enjoys a high profile and a strong reputation. They want to do the best they can for their tenants and landlords and they see real opportunities through PINZ to mark themselves out as property managers who are going the extra mile to prove they’re professionals that people can trust”.


              As an IMPA member, I agree.
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              • Blueprint for 'fair deal' for renters is recipe for two-tier housing market
                11 July 2018

                Usual drivel disguised as facts. One item went:
                Originally posted by Stuff
                Renters United members are dedicated to bringing in a more European-style rental system, based on long-term, open-ended rental contracts, and severely limiting landlords' powers to remove tenants.
                Of course, no mention of the 'bare shell' state of houses in that rental market.

                Then there's this gem:
                Originally posted by Stuff
                Renters United also want the see the Tenancy Tribunal beefed up with extra money, investigative powers, and the power to even ban landlords from renting out properties if they repeated flout the law.
                How about equality? I.e.

                Giving the TT the power to ban tenants from renting properties if they repeated flout the law.

                Let's hear Renters United respond to that.

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                • Here is the link for the full plan. I read it through to see if the plan recognised the probable sales of rentals if even some of their plan is implemented. Sure, it is there, sort of, and the remedy is simple - lots more taxpayer money for public housing.

                  Renters United is Wellington based. No mention of nearly a thousand rentals available in Wellington as of today, ready and waiting for unhappy tenants to move right in. They look clean and tidy, not full of dirt and mould, but maybe the photos are not the full story. ;D

                  Mr Twyford is, however, listening and has promised a review of the RTA soon. Chances are some of this plan will be implemented. I hope he has the Finance Minister softened up for a massive injection of taxpayer money.

                  https://www.rentersunited.org.nz/plan/

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                  • Originally posted by artemis View Post
                    No mention of nearly a thousand rentals available in Wellington as of today, ready and waiting for unhappy tenants to move right in. They look clean and tidy, not full of dirt and mould, but maybe the photos are not the full story.
                    Of course they're not!

                    In their 'Plan,' Ranters Untied have asserted - with full logical fallacy authority:

                    Rental homes are cold, damp and unsafe even as rents go up and up.
                    In the absence of a qualification like some or many or a few, that means that all rental homes are cold, damp and unsafe.

                    Why would anyone take said ranters seriously?

                    Except a W'gton woodenhead or two with an eye to snagging a few votes.

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                    • Originally posted by Perry View Post
                      Of course they're not!

                      In their 'Plan,' Ranters Untied have asserted - with full logical fallacy authority:



                      In the absence of a qualification like some or many or a few, that means that all rental homes are cold, damp and unsafe.

                      Why would anyone take said ranters seriously?

                      Except a W'gton woodenhead or two with an eye to snagging a few votes.
                      we are about to relocate the house we live in to a subdivided section we own with the intent to rent out. As we go through the process we will have to upgrade the property to meet tenancy requirements. Not sure why it’s good enough for me and my family including a 5 month old but not good enough for any tenant.

                      anyways I’m happy to invest the funds the funds to insulate etc but will ensure the payout for the additional funds is made up from the increase in rent within 12 months.

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                      • Originally posted by elguapo View Post
                        It's almost like Quinovic stands to profit greatly from licencing property managers.
                        Quinovic are the "bumble fumble" of property management from my experience with them. Gross mistakes from inspection forms to bond lodgment and rent increase notices . They stuffed it all up for myself on a recent property purchase where they were managing the property for the previous owner. Hopeless absolutely hopeless they were. Their arrogance was astounding!

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                        • Originally posted by mrsaneperson View Post
                          Hopeless absolutely hopeless they were. Their arrogance was astounding!
                          So in the eyes of Wellington, they are perfectly suited for the job then.

                          What could possibly go wrong? 😈

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                          • Originally posted by Don't believe the Hype View Post
                            anyways I’m happy to invest the funds the funds to insulate etc but will ensure the payout for the additional funds is made up from the increase in rent within 12 months.
                            No doubt you will ask for whatever rent the market will bear.
                            If you hadn't had to change a thing I expect you'd be asking the same rent.

                            I really don't think the customer expectation of an insulated, non-drafty product is unreasonable.
                            Warm - depends on the heat the tenant puts in.
                            Anyone reading some of the comments on these forums would get the feeling that landlords are a heartless Dickensian lot.

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                            • The Plan to Fix Renting was launched on 11 July 2018 by Renters United

                              To quote - “Rental homes are cold, damp and unsafe even as rents go up and up. Renters can have our homes taken away for any reason — or no reason. Meanwhile, the few rights we do have are poorly enforced through a system that renters themselves pay for. Half of all New Zealanders rent, yet we cannot make our house a home.”

                              And the web ends - “We need to build the pressure on politicians to act by making sure they hear about the issues with renting and the solutions we propose from as many people as possible, as well as in the media.”


                              As NZPIF response I’ve only seen A. King’s response.
                              Heavy views on one side of the equation, but what is the counterbalance?

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                              • I'd love to hear professional opinion from practising psychiatrist how and if it's even helpful to argue with clinically delusional and generally stupid patients?

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