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  • Potential first home purchase - plaster extension?

    Hello forum of very knowledgeable and helpful property folks,

    My partner and I are looking to buy a first home in Auckland and have come across one that is within our budget that we like a lot. It is a stucco house that was built early 1950s and appears to be dry and sound underneath. However, there was an extension built in 1998 that is timber framed plaster. It has no eaves, but there is narrow flashing above the windows/doors and the wooden joinery looks to be in fairly good nick. A new roof has been put on in the last 5-10 years and there are no obvious signs of moisture or water damage inside or outside.

    The LIM is available but unfortunately I've run out of time prior to the auction (on Friday!) to source the property file from the Council so don't have any details on the plans and construction of the extension. Building permits on the extension had not been signed off but the vendor is in the process of finalising the CCC (inspections completed) and receipt of the CC has been made a condition of sale. When I asked the agent about weathertightness he gave me the standard "The owner has had no problems but if you have concerns get a building inspection" response. I've had a builder mate check do an initial walk-through and am waiting to hear his feedback, but in the meantime I'm trying to understand what the risk profile is. Does this immediately raise red flags for those of you in the know? Does getting a CCC mean that the construction is sound and safe?

    I've had advice that there is a general stigma around anything plaster and that this might limit the resale value, but it could also mean that the purchase price is lower. We're looking for a home to live in for the near future, not necessarily an investment to make money on, but we certainly don't want to end up worse off. We can't afford to buy a house that something that needs partial recladding but the brick and tiles are selling beyond our reach in this market...

    Any thoughts, inklings or advice would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance!

  • #2
    Originally posted by flea View Post
    I've run out of time prior to the auction (on Friday!) to source the property file from the Council
    Why do you think you are late? Order ASAP (online) and the DVD is likely to arrive with courier on Wednesday or Thursday - at least that how it worked for me recently...

    We can't afford to buy a house that something that needs partial recladding but the brick and tiles are selling beyond our reach in this market...

    So what about good old weatherboard houses with proper (large) eaves?
    Last edited by ivanp; 04-05-2015, 04:26 PM.

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    • #3
      whats the plaster over, hardibacker? ply. triple S, if triple S i would be wanting to know if it was building papered prior to plastering

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ivanp View Post
        Why do you think you are late? Order ASAP (online) and the DVD is likely to arrive with courier on Wednesday or Thursday - at least that how it worked for me recently...

        The files for West Auckland are run out of the Henderson Service Centre and they state 5 days for processing plus postage (doesn't appear to have a courier option). They unfortunately can't make them available through a download link like North Shore does. Even for collecting the CD in person they have a 5 day processing timeframe.

        So what about good old weatherboard houses with proper (large) eaves?[/COLOR]
        We're keeping a lookout in the meantime so hopefully something a little more sound (like weatherboard with proper eaves) will come up in our bracket...

        Thanks for your response

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        • #5
          Don't want to demoralize but I believe that if you are in doubt ,don't do it ,especially if you can't afford to mend the mistake.
          You don't even know if you are gonna get it in the auction or not.
          A few extra $ on whether board would give you peace. ..priceless
          I am sure there would a better one coming after this ...

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          • #6
            Hi guys,

            I know this is an old thread but I didn't want to start yet another one on plaster houses.

            On interest.co.nz they are all very negative about the property market, saying it's all over, the crash is here blah blah blah. And one guy linked to a search of properties with "Must Sell" in the ad somewhere, so I thought I'd take a look.

            And I saw this one: http://www.trademe.co.nz/property/re...1285157394.htm

            NB: Included in the must sell search, there are quite a few plaster houses...

            Anyway, that is a lot of house for $895k. No way you build that again for that money. But of course it's got this plaster exterior.

            Not sure when it was built, but in the 2000s somewhere: https://www.trademe.co.nz/property/i...8-256f04760a22

            So my questions are this:

            1) Can something like this ever be re-clad? it looks tricky because of all the recessed bits, curved bits and so on.

            2) And if so, what exactly needs to be done? Like around windows and so on?

            3) Is this ever worth doing? Or forget it?
            Squadly dinky do!

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            • #7
              my 2 cents

              Originally posted by Davo36 View Post
              So my questions are this:

              1) Can something like this ever be re-clad? it looks tricky because of all the recessed bits, curved bits and so on.

              yes anything is possible with enough $$. potentially rebuild curves straight.

              2) And if so, what exactly needs to be done? Like around windows and so on?

              One dilemma likely to be faced is whether to replace the joinery or re use existing, Pros and cons are
              pros, cheaper
              cons, probably single glazed, rubbers perishing, paint fading, will look 2nd hand when rest of house is looking new, stuck with existing colour

              will need new flashings around windows to comply with current building standards, other issues possible will be ground clearances but there are always solutions. On the positive side has nice wide eaves so no need to rebuild the roof structure

              3) Is this ever worth doing? Or forget it?
              there are a number of ways of looking at it, if you can buy it cheap enough, reclad and on sell but know the ceiling for your suburb, im not familiar with that part of henderson but is there much selling in the early millions?

              other options include buy and hold for several years, reclad and then sell as its the land appreciating. Budget 200K as a start, on that one i would suspect more as lots of tricky details and decks

              as you correctly point out, that is a lot of house for the money and no way would build that cheap today

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              • #8
                Thanks Tomo, perhaps another 2 cents?
                Squadly dinky do!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Davo36 View Post
                  Thanks Tomo, perhaps another 2 cents?
                  You do see that he commented within the quote?

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                  • #10
                    Oh sorry, no I didn't see that at all.

                    Thanks Tomo.
                    Squadly dinky do!

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                    • #11
                      Kitchen layout and color are an eyesore.

                      The price e reflects this and the exterior cladding.

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                      • #12
                        Yeah I was thinking that about the kitchen too. Would need to allow for changing the cabinets to a different colour.
                        Squadly dinky do!

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