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  • Perry
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    Either way, much the same, eh?
    Yurtle the turtle epitomised.
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  • Davo36
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    Lol Perry, that's very funny, but I think more apt like this:

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  • Perry
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    Originally posted by steven anderson View Post
    Given Heatley wants the not for profits and private sector more in the market the more noise you make the harded it will be for Heatley to get the gig off the ground.
    Heatley? The not-sure-which-credit-card-it-was Heatley?
    That one?
    Originally posted by Viking
    So Mr Heatley isn’t up to the job once more. These Nat. ministers are a disgrace. Absolutely no control over their responsibilities and couldn't care less, it seems. It's worth pointing out that not only did Uncle Bill remove the depreciation from rental housing, but now his cobber is socking the repair bills for their tenants to the owners.
    The Nats. are abusive towards their voters in exactly the same way the Labour pricks were. Is this a Beehive disease?
    Probably so. Colony Collapse Disorder, I believe
    it's called. The hive eventually dies out. Maybe
    something similar with these drones?

    Dump it all on the voters, shall we? This may be
    a view from the back of one of the houses being
    referred to, in the article.

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  • muppet
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    WHAT LANDLORDS SAY ABOUT HOUSING NZ
    "They do not represent us in any way. The revaluation on the properties was a fraud, and the service for us regarding repairs is nonexistent."



    "I cringe at their lack of professionalism."


    "I feel I am paying all repair cost, if previous tenant has moved out damaging things in the house, I have to face the brunt of it which I feel was not in the contract when I initially signed it. Have contacted HNZ but they are telling me it's all wear and tear."


    "I believe that most of the problems arise because HNZ policies are too PC and I was advised by the staff member who escorted me through one of the houses `not to say anything to the tenants' about my opinion of the condition of the seven-year-old house so that I would not hurt their feelings. I appreciate your email and we should collectively get together to pressure them into setting and administering higher standards in the care of our properties, because without us as private investors, HNZ's source of houses to provide to their clients would be significantly reduced."


    "My three-year-old property looks like 20-years plus... a crying shame."


    "I have felt this way for a long time. The property is always put in the lower range even when it was new ... I believe I've lost hundred[s] if not thousands in lower rent."
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/4473...g-NZ-treatment

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  • eri
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    Moderator Comment
    Unless a facebook member, PT forumites will
    not be able to view any pages in the link, here:


    http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Housing-NZ-Owners-Landlords/178273642191204?v=wall

    in the discussions, for the pot plants?

    The classic was them trying to charge me for a lock the was busted off a door. When I asked to see and inspected. Found to my horror that it had been installed by the tenant and it was a outside gate hinge lock and it was bolted clean through the door. And they still tried to say it was at my cost. I can go on, but I wont. I'm glad you've had a great experience. Long may it continue.....

    a friends experience was renting to a solo mum, went ok for a year or 2 until 1 day he gets a call from her that she has moved out and into emergency housing because the house has been trashed. she had broken up with her unemployed boyfriend who went off, gotten drunk and high on P, came back and, raging outside, trashed the place, while she cowered in the kitchen. windows, doors and cladding kicked in.

    friend doesn't like to talk about it, but think he ended up paying for the damage repairs. HNZ expected him to get the repair costs from the unemployed boyfriend? who's retired father offered to do the work with a few mates over a few weekends if friend provided the material. his son couldn't pay and tenant wouldn't testify and had gone into hiding etc.
    Last edited by Perry; 19-12-2010, 02:31 PM. Reason: Added Moderator comment

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  • steven anderson
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    An interesting situation with HNZC. Obviously not the best. HNZC was always going to side with the tenants, they represent the State and not the Landlord. HNZC is the tenant of the property. There are some interesting clauses in the rental agreement from HNZC which you might be wise to review.

    There is a disputes clause which needs to be reviewed and actioned by aggreived landlords as required.

    Finally you would have recourse under civil law to retreive the house if you could prove (that should not be too hard) mismanagement.

    Given Heatley wants the not for profits and private sector more in the market the more noise you make the harded it will be for Heatley to get the gig off the ground.

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  • Viking
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    So Mr Heatley isn’t up to the job once more.These Nat. ministers are a disgrace. Absolutely no control over their responsibilities and could care less it seems. Its worth pointing out that not only did Uncle Bill remove the depreciation from the rental housing but now his cobber is socking the repair bills for their tenants to the owners.
    The Nats. are abusive towards their voters in exactly the same way the Labour pricks were. Is this a Beehive disease?

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  • Fuzz
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    Well, why am I not surprised. If HNZ can't get their tenants to look after it's own stock, how the heck do you expect them to manage a privately owned property any better. Those who signed up to this scheme would have been better off having a PM looking after the property, at least the tenant screening process would have sorted the wheat from the chaff.

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  • Dean@Massiveaction
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    Wow what a surprise, HNZ leases proving to be as bad as we tell everybody they are :-)

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  • muppet
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    Landlords livid over Housing NZ treatment

    Fun and games with the Housing Corp.
    Landlords livid over Housing NZ treatment

    ROB STOCK - Sunday Star Times Last updated 05:00 19/12/2010

    Revolt is brewing among private landlords leasing homes to Housing New Zealand in a commercial scheme set up to help reduce state house waiting lists.
    The landlords, many of whom acquired their properties in the build-to-let schemes that flourished in the housing boom, say Housing New Zealand (HNZ) is mismanaging their properties, paying them less than the market rents they expected, and are too often siding with destructive tenants.
    Some of the landlords are so hot under the collar they say their treatment at the hands of HNZ, which is currently advertising for more landlords to lease their properties to it, amounts to state-perpetrated fraud, or a "hidden tax" on private landlords.
    Read more at

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/4473...g-NZ-treatment

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  • Perry
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    I accept that's "fair enough." However, too
    many come to these forums after the very
    worst of an REA PM event. That's why I say
    that a blanket "get a PM" comment is unhelpful.
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  • Dean@Massiveaction
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    Like I keep saying, I am referring to people who are on PT who can avoid bad PM's. :-)

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  • Perry
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    Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
    @Perry, yes but irrelevant to my comments. NEVER manage your own properties. . .
    Nonsense. I manage my own - always have done.
    (I may change that stance, many years from now)
    Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
    The laws are too complex and tenant-biased to do it yourself IMHO.
    Since when has that been anything different to now?
    Many PMs knowledge of the law is deficient, too.
    Especially if part of a REA shop front. See here,
    here, here, here and here.

    And that's just for starters!
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  • Dean@Massiveaction
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    @Perry, yes but irrelevant to my comments. NEVER manage your own properties, unless you want a job as a PM. Otherwise, use a good PM. Get one recommended from here or someone you know.

    The laws are too complex and tenant biased to do it yourself IMHO.

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  • Perry
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    <sighs> No surprises, there.
    Are you reading this, Dean?
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