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  • Nick G
    Fanatical
    • Jul 2014
    • 2547

    #1

    Insulation without ventilation leads to dampness issues

    I found this an interesting read, particularly in lieu of recent rule changes.



    I wonder what the cost increase will be to do proper ventilation when you insulate to prevent this?
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  • jimO
    Fanatical
    • Sep 2011
    • 1778

    #2
    i see major problems in the future all these draughty old villas that generations of people lived in without insulation in the walls and floor getting sealed up with insulation without adequate ventilation will be rotting messes in the future

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    • Davo36
      Fanatical
      • Sep 2007
      • 8467

      #3
      No no no jimO. The problem is they're cold and mouldy and need insulation.

      Any other story or permutation of the above will not be accepted.
      Squadly dinky do!

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      • Nick G
        Fanatical
        • Jul 2014
        • 2547

        #4
        Hah. I did up a 100 year old monster in Brooklyn this year and the builder put in 3 automatic extractor fans, god bless that man.
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        • sidinz
          Fanatical
          • Mar 2013
          • 1701

          #5
          I've been saying this for years. Our older houses were built to breathe and insulation plugs up the lungs.

          I even posted on here that I have had to run a dehumidifier much more since insulating and was told that it was highly unusual and something else must be going on. Pffft.
          My blog. From personal experience.
          http://statehousinginnz.wordpress.com/

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          • flyernzl
            Fanatical
            • Mar 2007
            • 3144

            #6
            You need advice from an expert - Twyford or Little.

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            • charlotte30
              Opinionated
              • Jan 2007
              • 246

              #7
              Sidinz
              "I've been saying this for years. Our older houses were built to breathe and insulation plugs up the lungs".

              Agree withe the above. My experience with renovating a 100 year old house and insulating ceiling, walls and inter tenancy walls, has been condensation problems when winter came.
              (House split into 4 flats) One unit faces North and the water literally runs down the windows.  A dehumidifier is being used by the current tenants which works well. I will install a positive pressure system in the next few weeks and this will hopefully solve the problem.

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              • Davo36
                Fanatical
                • Sep 2007
                • 8467

                #8
                Originally posted by flyernzl View Post
                You need advice from an expert - Twyford or Little.
                Like like like
                Squadly dinky do!

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                • TheFlash
                  Opinionated
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 103

                  #9
                  Yeah, i got the old paper fluff in the ceiling. and then some bats were added to a portion of the roof. If a little bit of water gets through the tiles the paper fluff would grab it and it would eventually evaporate out. The bats dont hold water but force it to the exteriour of the walls if the ceiling is on a angle so a behavour change - so old house mixed with new products - cant be a good thing.

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                  • drelly
                    Fanatical
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 5867

                    #10
                    Originally posted by charlotte30 View Post
                    Agree withe the above. My experience with renovating a 100 year old house and insulating ceiling, walls and inter tenancy walls, has been condensation problems when winter came. [/COLOR](House split into 4 flats) One unit faces North and the water literally runs down the windows.  A dehumidifier is being used by the current tenants which works well. I will install a positive pressure system in the next few weeks and this will hopefully solve the problem.
                    What system are you putting in?
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                    • charlotte30
                      Opinionated
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 246

                      #11
                      Drivaire 2 outlet ventilation system. The flat is 90sm with an attic bedroom. Using it for downstairs bedroom and lounge living area.
                      Cheers
                      Charlotte30
                      Last edited by charlotte30; 04-07-2016, 07:07 PM. Reason: added wording

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                      • FrozenWaves
                        Opinionated
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 112

                        #12
                        I am just going through this with our PPOR which is a 50's weatherboard house.
                        Insulated ceiling and underfloor and now we have condensation on the internal exterior walls and water running down the windows since the temps have dropped. Mildew has already stated to form as a result ,so am investigating a ventilation system so am interested to see what other people with the same situation have gone with...

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                        • Wayne
                          Fanatical
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 10916

                          #13
                          Originally posted by FrozenWaves View Post
                          so am investigating a ventilation system so am interested to see what other people with the same situation have gone with...
                          Open the windows for a while during the day?
                          We had streaming windows last week with all the rain in Hamilton and being shutup during the day.
                          Nice weekend, 1 day of airing and no more wet windows.

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                          • north shore
                            Forum Junkie
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 398

                            #14
                            Hi Charlotte, could I ask what made you choose Drivaire? There is certainly a lot of choice out there now.

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                            • drelly
                              Fanatical
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 5867

                              #15
                              HRV wanted to charge us $6k for our house. I'm sure there's a cheaper option for a fan and some pipes!?
                              You can find me at: Energise Web Design

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