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  • Taurean
    Freshie
    • Jan 2005
    • 46

    #1

    Weeping Windows

    We have a two bedroom unit in Te Atatu Nth. Problem is the bedroom that doesn't get the sun gets condensation on the windows and isn't a great environment for the child whose room it is. The ceiling was insulated about 5 years ago under one of the govt run programs, (built before, tenant had community card etc), but not the underfloor as there is no room to get under and do the job.

    Any ideas how we can overcome this problem. I thought a heat pump but that would probably add to the weeping windows as it will generate more moisture. Only thing I can think of is a dehumidifier which will probably be a hassle to the tenant. This is a different tenant and we would like to keep them.
  • jimO
    Fanatical
    • Sep 2011
    • 1778

    #2
    they could open the windows and get a bit of ventilation

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    • Wayne
      Fanatical
      • Jun 2004
      • 10916

      #3
      HRV, Smartvent or similar positive pressure system would probably solve this.
      Opening windows would be good too - and cheaper!

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      • Viking
        Fanatical
        • Sep 2008
        • 1541

        #4
        Some info for you.
        Mould doesn’t grow in the cold. Mould grows in warm, humid conditions. Bathrooms and bedrooms with en suites are great places. .


        "We need to dress our windows like we dress ourselves in winter, snug-fitting, with layers. "We do not spray rubber onto a T-shirt and go for a walk in the middle of winter." Insulation advice applied to windows in kitchens, bathrooms and toilets as well as the rest of the house. "Roman blinds are fantastic because they fix directly to the wall." New cellular blinds were even better, fitting snugly within the window frame. "Surprisingly, old-fashioned net curtains were also effective at reducing heat loss. We think this is because the netting, which was installed close to the panes, interferes with downward air movement over the window. Net curtains are worth having – especially because they’re relatively cheap." If you have thermal curtains or even ordinary poly cotton lined curtains you can add another lining to the curtain. A separate lining can be attached to the curtain. These are available in some stores and at Curtain Clean we can make them to fit your curtains.

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        • Perry
          Geriatric
          • Sep 2004
          • 16811

          #5
          I strongly recommend a de-humidifier. But that does depend on the tenant.
          They are not expensive to run and also take the chill off the room in winter.
          Be aware that not all are created equal. For NZ conditions, look for a model
          that has a good extraction rate at lower temperatures. Too many of the
          readily available dehumidifiers are really made for the tropics.

          A heat pump should not generate more moisture - it actually removes some,
          a little like a dehumidifier. Even with a heat pump and a warmer house, you're
          still battling the dew point problem with condensation.

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          • Taurean
            Freshie
            • Jan 2005
            • 46

            #6
            Thanks everyone. The tenants do open the windows so there is no mould but I'm thinking its a bit of an ask in the winter especially when this is the young infants room. Don't want her catching anything so I'll look closer at dehumidfier and heat pump.

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            • DazRaz
              Addicted
              • Jan 2011
              • 836

              #7
              Originally posted by Perry View Post
              A heat pump should not generate more moisture - it actually removes some,
              a little like a dehumidifier. Even with a heat pump and a warmer house, you're
              still battling the dew point problem with condensation.
              Heat pumps will remove moisture when set to cooling, not when heating.

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              • Viking
                Fanatical
                • Sep 2008
                • 1541

                #8
                Another good suggestion Shower dome. Just put 4 in. Keeps most of the moisture in the shower and not in the bathroom.
                Helps keep the humidity down and as Perry says a dehumidifier.

                We have a naturally high humidity climate and the warmer we make houses the greater the problem.
                Old houses with air leaks all round may have been cool but they rarely went mouldy.

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                • Rentex
                  Opinionated
                  • May 2013
                  • 149

                  #9
                  Second Wayne's suggestion of installing a ventilation system wherever possible. Results are great.
                  Rentex Limited Property Management - Est. 1988

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                  • donnyboy
                    Opinionated
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 113

                    #10
                    I would install a ventilation system, works wonders in most cases and does the whole home at once, no bother of moving dehumidifiers around and emptying them

                    shower domes address the moisture from the shower only and not from bedrooms where people sleep with doors closed, they have their place thou

                    opening windows have their limiting factors, security, noise and bad weather etc

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                    • sidinz
                      Fanatical
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 1701

                      #11
                      I just read something that suggested that HRVs pump chemicals from heated pink batts into houses and that this is bad and banned in Europe. Does anyone know if there's any basis to that?
                      My blog. From personal experience.
                      http://statehousinginnz.wordpress.com/

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                      • Aston
                        Fanatical
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 1030

                        #12
                        Originally posted by sidinz View Post
                        I just read something that suggested that HRVs pump chemicals from heated pink batts into houses and that this is bad and banned in Europe. Does anyone know if there's any basis to that?
                        Can you post a link to that please.

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                        • sidinz
                          Fanatical
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 1701

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Aston View Post
                          Can you post a link to that please.
                          It wasn't a website. Hence the question.
                          My blog. From personal experience.
                          http://statehousinginnz.wordpress.com/

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                          • PTILoveYou
                            Fanatical
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 3885

                            #14
                            Also it's s fire risk hence that type of ventilation system is banned in some countries overseas

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                            • Wayne
                              Fanatical
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 10916

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Gary Lin View Post
                              Also it's s fire risk hence that type of ventilation system is banned in some countries overseas
                              Is it and are they?
                              Got any examples?

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