energywise insulation funding question

[north shore]

Hi,
Hoping someone will know where to find the exact wording in the fine print for the energywise insulation funding programme.
On the website it says to be eligible for the funding the house must of been built before 1 January 2000.
I have a house that was completed on 4 August 1999. But the code of compliance was not issued until March, 2010.
Now I'm being told that to be eligible for the funding, the house had to of had its code of compliance issued before 1 January 2000.
Would anybody know which one is correct?

I'm also curious as to our other house, it was built in the early 80's but doesn't have a code of compliance!!!!

[Viking]

THE HOUSE WAS BUILT BEFORE 1/1/2000

That's the English words used in the promotion so unless there is a disclaimer you are entitled to act on that advertisement.
Plain English Contract.

[north shore]

Thanks viking, thats all I can find as well, unfortunately both the installers and energywise are saying code of compliance, energywise is double checking, also muttering about grey area and going to get someone to contact me ...... eventually.
To me its easy, says built no mention of code of compliance.

[Devious0]

Insulation is cheaper without the grant, shop around and you will be surprised

[Keithw]

If you are doing it yourself - ie pink batts or whatever, be sure to play the suppliers off between themselves.
eg Mitre 10 promise to undercut anyone else by 15%, so when Placemakers or whoever have a special, take the price to Mitre 10, they will probably ring to check, but will pay up.
Bunnings also promise lowest prices, but they have Bradfords insulation I think - different product (which is often the saving grace for Mitre 10 & those that say they will undercut on THE SAME PRODUCT)

My experience with appying for the grant is that they insist on them doing the install, so while the materials may be cheaper, the install ends up costing you more- assuming you want to do it yourself.

[Ahar]

DIY expol is cheap and easy

Insulation is cheaper without the grant, shop around and you will be surprised

Yep... I suspect this is true. I recently put in underfloor insulation in a rental. Cost of expol was $700 and I paid my darling who is a builder $400 to help me install it. Many many hours later (spread over 3 days) of push pull and prod, the job was done.

Complained to the good folk at Bunnings that the penguins made it look to easy...result, they gave me one....stuffed toy that is

But in actual fact the job isn't that difficult. Expol is easy to cut...use a saw and push it into the joistie things with a block of wood, not your hands so it doesn't break up and you get a good fit.

I'm sure I saved heaps too. Hate to think what the installers would have charged.

[north shore]

thanks, can't see other half agreeing to help do the installation though, he's more a pay a professional get it done properly which translates to, I don't want to on his part.

[Ahar]

Now remember, "girls can do anything"

Get a quote and then work out the cost of materials only. From this you can work out the exhorbitant fee the pros are charging you.

If you're like me and hate being ripped off and the access is reasonable AND you don't mind dirt, dead birds and the odd hairy spider have a go yourself...with the help of a student of course...at $13/hr

Seriously, I did half the house myself....access was down to under a meter in most of the house so spent most of my time on my back.
It really isn't that difficult. Just go slowly over 3-4 days....unless you are built like an amazon, you'll be all tuckered out after 3 hoiurs.

[graemeh]

Forget expol or anything else that you have to wedge between joists.

Go for something like the "cocoon" blankets that you staple between the bearers. You should be able to do a house in a day using that system.

[north shore]

Well I got my reply over the code of compliance question from them today, I am asking them to tell me where it says anything about code of compliance, certainly not in any of their brochures and not on their website either:
Thank you for your call to our call centre regarding you house and the eligibility for funding.

As you code of compliance was not issued until March 2000 you would unfortunately not qualify for any funding. The code of compliance must have been completed prior to 1 January 2000.

[BusyLizzy]

Go for something like the "cocoon" blankets that you staple between the bearers. You should be able to do a house in a day using that system.

This statement worries me! I had a friend that was killed doing this 2 years ago. Stapled into some electrical wires and was electrocuted. If you do this, PLEASE be careful!

[graemeh]

This statement worries me! I had a friend that was killed doing this 2 years ago. Stapled into some electrical wires and was electrocuted. If you do this, PLEASE be careful!

Sorry to hear that.

I was very careful. If there was an electrical wire anywhere near where I was stapling I would put my left hand over it while using the stapler in my right hand.

There was no way I was going to staple a wire this way as I would have to staple my finger first!

My fingers survived unscathed.

I also had very good lighting, one 500w floodlight and an LED light on my head.

[north shore]

Well another email from them with me still querying the code of compliance stance.
This is her answer:
This information is not listed on our website. As you can imagine the date of completion could be very subjective so it was a policy decision to accept the code of compliance as the completed date as this is also the date the councils would consider the house completed and the code of compliance acts as proof of that.

I'm still not happy, can't get her to talk to me on the phone. Any body got any idea's on who to go to now?
I just object to the fact that the house was built in 1999, there is no mention on any advertising of the code of compliance. Our second house doesn't have one and she hasn't answered my question as to what happens there.

[Viking]

Save yourself the greif.
The house that I live in had the under floor estapol done by the previous owner and I can tell you its the coldest house I have ever lived in. Once its cold it stays that way.
The ceiling has batts older but still ok. Just received a quote for 1525 to recover it all.

Going to do some double glazing instead. Just cannot see the point of spending so much for so little. Rather buy a bit of firewood.
Today have designed a window blanket. Will let you know how it goes.

[muppet]

Hi Viking
Have you looked at www.dualglaze.co.nz?