Are Maori Govt Department names the end of the Labour Government?

[McDuck]

I learnt Maori songs in primary school.
I learnt to count in Maori in primary school.
I learnt to draw Maori patterns in primary school.
The school was mostly white European kids, but it was also very multicultural.
The staff were all races.

Apart from these few skills in the Maori language, the rest of the language is wall of meaningless sounds and letters.

Exactly the same as if I am looking at Russian or Chinese letters.

Pretty, but meaningless .

So when I see a news article about a GOVT DEPT with a MAORI name, I have no idea what the article is about. I am locked out.
When I see a public building with A long Maori name across the front, I have no idea what it does.
I don't go in or even remember it.
Clearly it's not for me.
It's mental work I'm too busy to waste time on.
I have things to do.


And the Government who provides the buildings and reports and ideas?
Clearly they are not a facilitating me.
How can I vote for a bunch of people who are excluding me?

Same as the interesting looking Chinese eateries in Albany.
The ones with only Chinese signage out front.
How can i go in? Its clearly not for me.
How would I even know what to order from the menu.
Do want all the mucking around, or just an easy relaxing lunch.

Even a small English translation under every sign and document ( by law) would help.

I suspect there is a bit of hubris and craziness taken over the upper sections of our society.
And a hell of a lot of pandering to keep ones job.

And I'm mild in my disapproval on this direction. Many people I know are furious at this nonsense
Really jumping hot furious.

What do they say...

pride before a fall.

Oh well.

https://beinecke.library.yale.edu/co...ich-manuscript

[Jeffa]

Since I'm the Token Maori on this forum and probably the wealthiest and best looking one, I believe I have sufficient knowledge to answer this.
Te Reo gives Maori a sense of pride, and sense of purpose, heritage or mana.

Does it increase wealth amongst Maori, improve health stats, crime and incarceration stats?

No
It's designed to keep the poor, poorer and the working and middle class permanent tax slaves
I mean the Maori economy is doing just fine for the government coffers, why change it? In fact why not in trench it! so you have another generation of brain washed tax slaves?and they can vote for the same politicians who trapped them there in the first place!

Learn Te Reo,it keeps Maori distracted like we'll behaved sheep, so they can vote for the same people trapping them in poverty or middle class mediocrity.

I cannot quote on your racist Asian questions because I'm not Asian but can atleast say this Wǒ yǒu qián biǎo zi

[McDuck]

Since I'm the Token Maori on this forum and probably the wealthiest and best looking one, I believe I have sufficient knowledge to answer this.
Te Reo gives Maori a sense of pride, and sense of purpose, heritage or mana.

Yup.. I don't get that at all, English gives me no such sensation.

Does it increase wealth amongst Maori, improve health stats, crime and incarceration stats?

Yes, for a select few higher ranking families.. it does.. in ways that smack of preferential treatment...but that too is the cultural norm...

Learn Te Reo,it keeps Maori distracted like we'll behaved sheep, so they can vote for the same people trapping them in poverty or middle class mediocrity.

I'd rather spend my time learning something that i actually want to, even another more global language.. but this is just not interesting to me.. sorry.

I cannot quote on your racist Asian questions because I'm not Asian but can at least say this Wǒ yǒu qián biǎo zi

Yup, rookie attempt at a shutdown using the race card. Well BOO. Not scared of that

[donna]

I know someone who missed out on a high up job to do with engineering because they didn’t speak Te Reo Māori. In their current job they have lessons every Monday paid for by the taxpayers.

cheers

Donna

[McDuck]

I know someone who missed out on a high up job to do with engineering because they didn’t speak Te Reo Māori. In their current job they have lessons every Monday paid for by the taxpayers.

cheers

Donna

Yup.
The people making these demands up are totally out of step with the feeling of the average New Zealander.

It's pure hubris.

It will cost them everything and ultimately give the Maori language a bad reputation.

How will you ever be drawn to something out of pleasure if it is forced upon you.

I really enjoyed my primary school exposure to the Maori culture.

I even got well told off because I took the broad black lines of the Maori designs we learned and applied them to the next project, a New Zealand flag.

I think I added a black outline to the union jack and stars.

I can still remember the dismayed look on the teachers face.

" Why did you do that?" she asked.
"Because it looks better ". I explained.
"Well, you've ruined it, do it again properly." she reprimanded.
Why do teachers have such bad taste, I thought.

In contrast,
I am really not enjoying trying to find a library in a new town square and being locked out by all of the signage.
Lines of unintelligible letters make me feel like a stranger in my own country.

I swear I have more luck reading Russian or German Signage, the root structure is similar to English.
These Indonesian languages, like Maori are a step too far away from my schooling. I even prefer the pictograms of Chinese languages.
They probably need to sort themselves out and do the Maori in Chinese pictograms rather thane English letters.



When hubris and ideology get in the way of practicality, it's gotten up it's own bottom.

[donna]

^^ Couldn’t agree more. We’re isolating NZ with this BS.

It’s not empowering Māoris - it’s diluting their culture and specialness IMHO.

[Jeffa]

^^ Couldn’t agree more. We’re isolating NZ with this BS.

It’s not empowering Māoris - it’s diluting their culture and specialness IMHO.

Tell me about I cringe at so many sports teams performing the once cherished haka for commercial purposes

It should only be performed by one team, the All blacks, away only against a top 4 team only

A funeral and an actual war that's it.

Now I see James Cameron putting moko on his blue Aliens in the Avatar sequels

I feel like my once proud culture is getting sold to woke culture so the woke brigade can feel good about themselves not realising there diluting Maori culture.

[McDuck]

I feel like my once proud culture is getting sold to woke culture so the woke brigade can feel good about themselves not realizing there diluting Maori culture.

Ha. Yes, there is that aspect to it all.

The Maori culture has no written language. So why not be fully traditional.

With digital technology there is no need to use English letters to describe things anymore.
It was just a technological limitation of the printing press.

Stop stealing the English letters to express Maori.

Here is the best word for library in Maori. And one i would have no problem translating on the fly.

[Jeffa]

[John the builder]

To be fair I now understand why non English speaking Māori would have felt marginalized in a English only speaking world.

But what we are now experiencing is marginalization of non Māori.

for example while we hear the weather people double speaking every English town name with some Māori equivalent but when do you hear them say the english name for say Whangarei or Tauranga??

At least then they should be consistent?

Creating inequality is not the answer.