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  • 3 Waters not a Win Win

    The 3 waters plan. Councils have to give over 100% of their water assets for just 50% stake - as the other 50% goes to Iwi.

    What is this all about? Well, odd is what it is. The plan is based on the Scottish model - (yeah, that's weird!). NZ and its unique challenges are not the same as Scotland!

    See here. https://www.nzcpr.com/the-three-waters-journey/. For a reasonable overview from a Council perspective.

    What does the amalgamation mean for the areas that have spent $$millions of local ratepayers contributions for water meters etc?

    See this video - who is it for? Under 5s perhaps..... oh and the Advert cost us $3.5m



    This comment is on the Youtube page and it sums it up nicely.....

    Labour has no faith in our hard-working councils - many of whom are doing a stellar job looking after our water. The last thing we need is mega-bureaucracy handling a job that depends on so much local knowledge and variable problems and requirements.
    Who cares more about the needs of local ratepayers? The councils.

    This new structure is set to take off on 1 July 2024 - just 3 years from now. We should all be very concerned and not let this be swept under the carpet.

    cheers,

    Donna

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  • #2
    Be careful expressing your concern lest you be branded an -ist of some sort by racist comrade commissar Ma Hoota, complete with WINZ barcode on chin.

    Last edited by Perry; 03-08-2021, 03:45 PM.
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    • #3
      It'll just get rammed through under urgency.
      Who needs to waste time on democracy when you have 65 seats.
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      • #4
        Yeah, or be cancelled!

        This is a good read from Muriel Newman

        A December Cabinet paper issued by Minister Mahuta reveals that the argument being used to justify what is the biggest local government upheaval since the reforms of the 1980s, is the discredited claim that a “partnership” exists between Maori and the Crown: “Cabinet agreed that a high-level principle of partnership with iwi/Maori will be followed throughout the reform programme, and reflected in the new three waters service delivery system.”

        Despite there being no legal basis, nor public mandate for the so-called Treaty “partnership”, it is now being extrapolated into ‘shared sovereignty’. Yet, as former Judge and Law Lecturer Anthony Willy has explained, “It was and is constitutionally impossible for the Crown to enter into a partnership with her subjects. She can as she did in 1840 make promises to them but by definition, the Crown is supreme, and the people are subject to her laws.”
        cheers,

        Donna
        As a representative democracy founded on the principle of equal rights, it is abhorrent that Labour is destroying that culture through the 50:50 co-governance requirement of the Three Waters proposal. Imposed without warning or electoral mandate, the total upheaval of water services in New Zealand - designed to deliver control to Maori - is He Puapua in action.
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        • #5
          Sleep-walking to totalitarian, part-Maori tribal rule.

          How prophetic this advert was, from long ago.

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          • #6
            More from Muriel - in her recent newsletter.....

            Three Waters Campaign…
            Thank you so much to those kind readers who have supported our Three Waters campaign. We can report that thanks to your efforts in contacting councillors – and encouraging others to do the same – councils all over the country are now pushing back against the Government’s instructions not to consult.

            Please don’t give up – the whole reform scenario is founded on unsound evidence and faulty analysis, with the promised benefits unlikely to materialise.

            Furthermore, with the Government’s underlying objective to prioritise Maori rights, there are major risks to communities from losing democratic control of water services.
            3 Waters campaign page here: www.nzcpr.com/3waters. There is a templated letter calling for a referendum and I have sent it off to a councillor in my area. Muriel also includes the email addresses of all councillors making the process easy to do.

            cheers,

            Donna
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            • #7
              We're getting it whether we want it or not - some call it institutionalised theft - NZ Oligarchs?



              cheers,

              Donna
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              • #8
                So what are the benefits to the public ?

                Usually when a bunch of small suppliers are swallowed up into a monopoly, the price goes up and the usefulness of the product goes down.

                But, the pay of the Bean Counters and Talking Heads goes up.

                Why am I reminded of piglets at a trough.


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                • #9
                  Comrade Mao Hoota's bullshit will never stop. You can see the enduring stains of it on her face. The luxflake crowd would likely be no better, no matter how much they pre-election promise to the contrary.

                  The real reason is transferring a form of ownership of water to today's part-Maori so they can collect rent on its use and disposal. Nothing more - nothing less. They tried it with Shonkey and failed; they're having another go, now.

                  Cartoonist Garrick Tremain has made it clear - for those with eyes which see. (Reproduced with permission)









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                  • #10
                    The latest is Labour rushed through 24 bills last Weds and changed voting form 61 majority to 74 for the 3 waters bill to stop further democratic process from happening to change it.
                    The "entrenchment" of public ownership of water assets, voted through hastily by the Government and Green Party last week, could re-write lawmaking in NZ.
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                    • #11
                      That may've been 50% to 60%.

                      But there is a workaround that they haven't noticed. Yet.
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                      • #12
                        Could this be our water future?

                        Take possession, privatise, float and sell when you need the money?



                        Guardian

                        "Revealed: more than 70% of English water industry is in foreign ownership"


                        https://www.theguardian.com/environm...eign-ownership

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                        • #13
                          Good find and probably.
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                          • #14
                            It’s happening in Australia

                            An annual report published by the Foreign Investment Review Board showed that the amount of water in foreign hands increased marginally again.
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                            • #15
                              The only thing anyone should be surprised at is that they are surprised at it, at all.
                              New Zealand's Quiet Coup d'Etat

                              Reproduced with the gracious permission of Garrick Tremain
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