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  • #46
    Originally posted by Wayne View Post
    Exactly - an economy built on waste.
    Lots of output (building) doing nothing.
    And we keep saying we have to increase productivity in NZ...

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Wayne View Post
      Exactly - an economy built on waste.
      Lots of output (building) doing nothing.
      It's an economy built to service capitalism and consumerism.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Gary Lin View Post
        And we keep saying we have to increase productivity in NZ...
        Increase productivity not increase production.
        Productivity increase when you produce more with less (usually less labour).
        Producing more of something you don't need may increase the GDP but it can't go on forever - surely!
        Which is why China is setting itself up for a big property bust. Pyramid schemes never last.
        The bigger fool theory works until you run out of fools - or there just aren't any bigger ones.

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        • #49
          after 19 days i would say the most popular car in china is the audi usually black followed closly by vw, mercedies, bmw volvo and all the japanese models coming a distant last is anything chinese apart from electric scooters of which there are billions, our tour guide told us that chinese people dont want chinese cars also you dont see old cars nothing older than late 90s

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          • #50
            There is a rule in China that private use cars can only last 10 years. I'm not sure if they have relaxed those rules though.

            Those fancy european cars are assembled in China, with joint venture with Chinese films. So apart from maybe the engine and the cpu electronics, essentially they are pretty much chinese cars lol.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Gary Lin View Post
              There is a rule in China that private use cars can only last 10 years. I'm not sure if they have relaxed those rules though.

              Those fancy european cars are assembled in China, with joint venture with Chinese films. So apart from maybe the engine and the cpu electronics, essentially they are pretty much chinese cars lol.
              we were told only VW and GM products are made there

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              • #52
                What fun it must be traveling with such calm and considerate people.

                China detains 25 who opened plane exits
                Chinese police detained 25 plane passengers who opened emergency exits before take-off after becoming angry that their flight was delayed by snow, state media reported, in the latest incident of rowdy behaviour by Chinese travellers.
                Last month a budget flight from Thailand to China was forced to return to Bangkok after a Chinese passenger threw hot water at a cabin attendant.

                Chinese state-run media branded four unruly passengers on board as "barbarians," reporting that one of them had threatened to blow up the plane in a row over a seating arrangement.

                An airport in Kunming saw chaotic scenes in 2013, when thousands of angry passengers were stranded for hours after heavy fog delayed flights.
                https://nz.totaltravel.yahoo.com/new...d-plane-exits/

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                • #53
                  I'd rather fly late in a plane that has been fixed than on time and ...

                  Angry because they had to wait for the wings to be de-iced - lol

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                  • #54
                    If you watch border patrol, either the Canadian or Oz one you will see just how dishonest and obnoxious Asian travellers are. I literally can't believe how bent they are sometimes.

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                    • #55
                      I have found they think we are stupid!

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                      • #56
                        Naive.
                        An education for us sheltered/spoilt lot.

                        I quite like the look out for yourself/cowboy approach they have.
                        Fun & keeps the brain more alert.
                        The three most harmful addictions are heroin, carbohydrates and a monthly salary - Fred Wilson.

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                        • #57
                          China is in my bucket list, I would definitely want to see the Great Wall of China, Forbidden City and the Terracotta Army.

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                          • #58
                            the great wall bit where we went was crowded, the forbidden city was crowded, the terracotta warriors was crowded but it was all worth seeing

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                            • #59
                              make sure you go to china tourist spots during a local non- holiday period! preferably when all the locals are working!

                              otherwise all you see is a sea of people!

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by jimO View Post
                                the great wall bit where we went was crowded, the forbidden city was crowded, the terracotta warriors was crowded but it was all worth seeing
                                26 years ago they weren't so crowded.
                                It has changed a lot in that time.

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