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    Hi Guys

    Came across this a few minutes ago. Makes for interesting reading.

    Are we being softened up?

    Taxing Residential Property?
    05/02/2004 10:44 AM Brian Jamieson - The Independent

    Conventional wisdom has it that proposing higher taxes on New Zealand's national pastime - buying and selling property - is political suicide.

    But conventional wisdom always looks immutable until the day it no longer holds true. The fact that political parties currently avoid thinking about property taxes should not be taken as a permanent condition.

    Despite political unacceptability, there are sound public policy arguments for the view that increased taxes on property would confer benefits outweighing the costs. Although property is taxed, for example through rates, overall it has enjoyed a fiscal bypass in New Zealand. The idea that property should be off limits when it comes to thinking about tax changes and options is a bizarre approach to fiscal policy.

    On average, in European Union countries, taxes on property represented about 5% of total tax revenues in 2001. This figure was at 12% for Britain - the highest rate in the EU. Despite the relatively high rate of property taxes in Britain, this does not seem to have curbed the British appetite for property ownership.

    Taxation of property raises a wide range of complex public policy issues. The implications of tax changes need to be well thought out. The point is that treating residential property as a "no go" area as far as general taxation is concerned cannot be justified on grounds of either economic efficiency or equity.

    When he was governor of the Reserve Bank, Opposition leader Don Brash often chided New Zealanders for their infatuation with property. In his new role as leader of the National Party he is well placed to float some innovative taxation options with the electorate, if he so chooses.

    For their part, left-of-centre parties might see justification in increasing property taxes as a way of redistributing wealth from the property-rich to the property-poor.

    Looking only at the residential property sector in NZ, and setting aside local body taxation in the form of rates, there is a range of general taxation possibilities:



    Stamp duty: This is a transactions levy paid every time a property is sold. Given current volumes of residential property sales, even a modest level of, say, 1% could generate a significant amount of tax revenue.


    Capital gains tax: Generally it is assumed that the primary residence would be exempt but countries such as Germany, Sweden and Finland impose capital gains on primary residences.


    Estate Duty: (sometimes called an inheritance tax). Payable on the deceased estate, the threshold at which estate duty was applied could be set so as to exempt residential properties with a value around the national average.
    At present neither stamp duty nor estate duty apply to residential property in New Zealand. Because of the difficulties in distinguishing the intention behind the purchase of a property - income or capital gain - effective taxation has been impracticable.

    In addition, a serious review of residential property tax would have to take into account the range of advantageous provisions applying to rented property such as the deductibility of interest payments and generous depreciation allowances. These provisions also tend to enhance the attraction of residential property as an investment. In practice all sorts of taxation options at a variety of rates are possible. The case for shifting more of the tax burden to property has a number of strands.

    First there is the argument that, relative to other activities, residential property in NZ is lightly taxed. As a result this asset class is advantaged compared with other - and potentially more productive - activities.

    To achieve the celebrated level playing field the current taxation bias in favour of property would need to be reduced. Increased property taxes would act to reduce the attractiveness of property relative to other investments.

    In a period when residential property is booming, increased taxation would also tend to act as a built-in stabiliser. At the very least it might dampen some of the swing.

    For most New Zealanders by far their largest store of wealth is in the form of property. This trend has intensified as the value of the equity in residential property has rocketed in recent years.

    There is an argument that wealth gained through property should be subject to some redistributive mechanism. Without such a mechanism society faces the prospect of dividing into two classes - the property-rich and the rest. That mechanism could take the form of either a capital gains tax or estate duty.

    As with any area of taxation, determing the merits of increased property taxes comes down to a questions of costs and benefits - and often these accrue to different social groups.

    Taxes on property are not an all-purpose tool. Many questions would need to be resolved before increasing taxes on residential property. For example, it can be claimed that NZ has an efficient property market and that this contributes to labour mobility and general flexibility in the economy.

    Accordingly, a review of property tax options would need to take account of their wider impact such as the possible adverse impact of increased tax on the mobility of the work force.

    Greater taxation on residential property in New Zealand is not imminent. But is there a political party out there prepared to start a debate?

    Brian Jameson is a Wellington-based analyst and writer.

    Regards
    "There's one way to find out if a man is honest-ask him. If he says 'yes,' you know he is a crook." Groucho Marx

  • #2
    Awesome!

    Thanks muppet!

    Cheers

    Marc
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    • #3
      I wonder who the writer Brian Jameson voted for???
      He quotes:
      There is an argument that wealth gained through property should be subject to some redistributive mechanism. Without such a mechanism society faces the prospect of dividing into two classes - the property-rich and the rest,

      PERISH THE THOUGHT.... that those that have worked hard and saved enough money for a house deposit should actually get to benefit from such actions.
      NAHHH - take it off them, they must be greedy selfish people. I'm sure there are tons of non productive, lazy gits out there that would appreciate some more wealth.
      Ever heard of the parable of the ant and the grasshopper? It is very applicable.
      Last edited by Gypsygirl; 07-10-2005, 08:49 PM. Reason: add additional

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      • #4
        As NZ does not have a capital gains regime (yet) this wont happen unless a broad new regime is introduced. Possible, especially with what Labour wants to do with Overseas investments.

        Stamp duty: dont see why they dont as it would be easy to monitor through the land transfer office. Problem is that it will increase the cost of housing.

        inheritance duty: I dont like this one as it just seems too checky and causes problems for estates - ie, you have to sell the inherited items just to pay the tax. incidentally, I think we currently pay this at 0% (ie we use to and instead of repealling, they just reduced to zero)which means that it would just be an order in councel (ie helen and a few friends) to make this one payable again. Trusts avoid this though so get your property in now!

        CJ

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        • #5
          That's an interesting post Gypsygirl as i think that something does need to be done to keep property values relative to incomes.

          If you don't you will face the situation where mid-earning young people know that as much as they save they will always be renters. Some other countries are facing this position and it's not a good position to be in.

          Agree though that it has to be carefully balanced as to where this wealth is distributed so as not to encourage freeriding......

          Also, (i'm risking my life putting this on a pro-property website!!) I think ecomonic activity should be encouraged which results in employment growth and bringing more funds into the country......and property doesn't bring these things!!!

          Remember, what is best for you and I isn't necessarily what is best for the country and vice versa!!!

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          • #6
            Hi Guys

            I think we face very interesting times.

            Why?

            Because of our election system.

            The Greens who may be drawn into some kind of coalition with the Labour Party want a Capital Gains Tax.
            To be part of the coalition they may want to target this very point.

            Capital Gains Tax is still part of our taxation system but is lying dormant at the moment so wont take much to become very active.

            Regards
            "There's one way to find out if a man is honest-ask him. If he says 'yes,' you know he is a crook." Groucho Marx

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            • #7
              kolzey,

              Whilst there are arguments for and against a general capital gains tax, and a death tax and stamp duty, it must be noted that such taxes seem do nothing to hinder the interest in property. Witness Australia, that has both capital gains tax, stamp duty AND land tax.

              So it doesn't achieve the results you talked of - namely keeping the prices of property affordable to the masses - in fact, if anything, it seems to have the opposite effect.

              The other thing is that if it did get people out of property the void would have to filled by government ...and we all know how efficient the government is at managing businesses - NOT!

              Each time the government considers such taxes it decides to rule them out. Partly because such a change would force them out at the earliest opportunity, and partly because the costs of administration and the nett gains would not make it worthwhile.

              Julian
              Gimme $20k. You will receive some well packaged generic advice that will put you on the road to riches beyond your wildest dreams ...yeah right!

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              • #8
                We have had stamp duty and death taxes in the past. Both have been abolished for presumably good reasons at the time. Lets hope we don't go back there.

                But tax systems are always changing which is why an investment should be good, before tax breaks. A tax break is an extra treat which may or may not be taken away at any time. An investment that relies on tax breaks to be good, could be riskier in long term.

                John

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                • #9
                  Julian,

                  When you look at capital gains tax in principle, it is effectively just another type of income tax.....hence currently there is a loophole for those who can afford to buy property to avoid tax.

                  While I don't like the idea of a CGT because of the compliance issues involved (saw this first hand in Aus) I do think something needs to be done to ensure untaxed income/wealth is not built through property.

                  In fact, why not just make residential property liable for GST? This would mean the value added would be taxed.

                  While the effect of the tax arguably may not lower values, it could be used to fund 'first investors' or help distribute wealth in a similar way.

                  As for the void you talk of, a decrease in demand wouldn't create a void?? The price/values will just lie where the lower demand meets supply.

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                  • #10
                    I come from a high tax nation and capital gains tax went from 20% to 22% and up to 9% stamp duty but as an individual you pay no income tax from any profit where as in NZ you pay up to 33% income tax on any capital gains.

                    The uk last year droped their capital gains from 40% to 18% to stimulate the property market.
                    Last edited by Gnomon; 21-01-2009, 12:55 AM.

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