Len Brown and the Port of Auckland

**Meehole** · 13-03-2012, 07:31 AM

How peculiar is it that my son who works at the Ports in an admin role learned to drive the straddles just recently and then managed to have a greater output per day than the stevedores that had been doing the job for decades??
How peculiar is it that they can work an 8 hour day and not finish their tasks and their overtime whether it be 1 hour or 2 is paid at a rate of another 8 hours??
How peculiar is it that one of the whingers on the ad on tv has now contracted out and currently in Oz awaiting his payout??
How peculiar that the public are not properly informed on the real goings on??
That's probably why Len won't get involved, he knows what is really going on.

**muppet** · 13-03-2012, 08:59 AM

According to Mike Hoskings this morning
the average wharfie
makes $91000 per year and
usually works 26 hours for a rostered 40 hour week.

**jimO** · 13-03-2012, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by muppet

According to Mike Hoskings this morning
the average wharfie
makes $91000 per year and
usually works 26 hours for a rostered 40 hour week.

no wonder they want more money who could survive on that

**TheLiberalLeft** · 13-03-2012, 11:52 AM

At this stage, I'm not sure they want more money.

**Meehole** · 13-03-2012, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by TheLiberalLeft

At this stage, I'm not sure they want more money.

No but they don't want to get paid for the hours they work either. 26 hours = $91k now, 26 hours = $59k going forward.

**Keys** · 13-03-2012, 02:15 PM

I see nobody is recognizing that the port has unlawfully sacked the workers? Happend to me in the past and my union enforced the law through the courts. Employer was severally smacked on the hands. Many thousands of dollars worth in our lawyers fees etc.

**donna** · 13-03-2012, 05:15 PM

I thought most Jobs are now contract based - even pseudo permanent jobs are now fixed term contracts - and you'd guess this is a step towards full contract style work where not only do you need to renew the contract you are also responsible for your super, acc levy, tax payments etc. There will be ongoing protests but it won't change the outcome as Businesses seek to trim their expenses and improve their profit for their shareholders.

It can be a winner if you know how to make it work for you.

cheers,

Donna

**speights boy** · 13-03-2012, 05:48 PM

So Donna
As an example

Do you think bank tellers working for MegaBank should be independent contractors, as opposed to employees of MegaBank ?

**TheLiberalLeft** · 13-03-2012, 06:04 PM

In many ways they already are, speights boy, and in an even worse way. Offshoring the back office and in some instances customer service helplines to some far-flung entity that is contracting to the bank, has access to detailed customer records and is not subject to NZ laws has more than a small potential to hit the fan.