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and who gets to decide what a child wants?
some labour party aparchik
trying to protect his party?
do you seriously believe those all 3 girls demanded that their parents not be told?
rather it seems they were "groomed" to keep it "in house" and NOT tell their parents
4 days ago andrew little threatened a ministerial inquiry if the law society engaged in a hush up over inappropriate sexual behaviour
Justice Minister Andrew Little has warned the New Zealand Law Society he will intervene if he feels they can't properly investigate widespread alleged inappropriate sexual behaviour and harassment in the legal profession.
He'd take advice on appropriate action, but said it would be "a ministerial inquiry of some sort".
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=12009785
looking forward to him publically going after the labour party tooLast edited by eri; 14-03-2018, 09:45 AM.have you defeated them?
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Originally posted by eri View Postand who gets to decide what a child wants?
some labour party aparchik
trying to protect his party?
do you seriously believe those all 3 girls demanded that their parents not be told?
rather it seems they were "groomed" to keep it "in house" and NOT tell their parents
If a 16 year old wants birth control the doctor isn't allowed to tell the parents unless given permission from the 'child'.
Same for abortion I believe.
I suspect you are letting your political bias get in the way of thinking.
Personally I don't agree with it but the law is the law.
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this isn't birth control where a girl is trying to keep in control of her choices
and i don't believe all 3 decided of their own free will to keep this hushed up
esp. as it now seems this was the 2nd such labour camp where teens were "touched"
it is good that 1 of the teens has now reported it to the police
seems my views are widely shared
and yes this is political
it became so when they put the party ahead of the people
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12012320
The Labour Party summer camp story is a hideous one on so many levels.
Sexual assault obviously being the major one, but there's so much else going on here too.
Parents not being told. The PM not being told.
A supervisor going to sleep, thus not fulfilling the fundamental basics required in terms of supervision. Alcohol being present around under-age children. MPs being contacted and assuming it was being dealt with.
It's what I'd call a complete cluster - of catastrophic proportions.
Any event, but especially one being put on by a political party, requires supervision, (that involves people being awake) and security.Last edited by eri; 14-03-2018, 11:18 AM.have you defeated them?
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Originally posted by eri View Postthis isn't birth control
and i don't believe all 3 decided of their own free will
not to tell their parents
esp. as it now seems the 2nd such labour camp where teens were "touched"
it is good that 1 of the teens has reported it to the police
seems my views are widely shared
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/headlines.cfm?c_id=1
Political people love this sort of thing and will see reds under every bed.
Do you at least agree that if the young people didn't give the consent for the information to be shared that those in control couldn't share it?
Whether they were coerced to not consent is contentious.
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know much about bullying?
How can I support my child?
It’s important to try and stay calm and work out how you will deal with the situation together. The Ministry recommends you take these steps:
- talk with your child, reassure them that they have done the right thing in talking to you
- agree on a plan of behaviour for your child
- support your child’s activities and friendships
- regularly check in with your child to see how they are doing
Find out the facts such as, what bullying behaviour they have been in, when and how?
Ask them how they are feeling at break and lunch times.
Use relevant points from these conversations to form your child’s support plan.
Your child may not want to talk, which maybe a sign they are being bullied.
Help them understand why it happens and what to do by telling them:
Last edited by eri; 14-03-2018, 11:27 AM.have you defeated them?
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Originally posted by Davo36 View PostJohn Key got HOUNDED for pulling the pony tail of a waitress...
What has that got to do with the current discussion on the 4 young people (2 male and 2 female I thought)?
It is good that at least one has complained to the police.
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Originally posted by Wayne View PostI think you will find that the 'childs' rights stop that if they don't want their parents informed.
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Originally posted by ATM View PostAccording to one of the equity policies, if someone comes and tells you something in 'confidence', you can say 'I can't guarantee that confidentiality if the thing you say will put you and/or others at risk.' So, the person who found out about that can report it to the superior above (or in some cases even to the police) if the case reported in confidence is something that will put the society at risk. .....
Possibly more risk from all the people running around with the knives out.
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Originally posted by Bluecoat View Post
From that article:
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Originally posted by Wayne View PostThey followed best practise following victim lead response.
If the victim doesn't want it reported would you override their wish because YOU know better. Maybe victimise them some more.
Of course you know more than the professionals.
You go up to the victim and ask if they want to talk to the police.
The victim says no.
You say, "ok, we won't tell the police."
Offender walks free and commits more assaults.
Is that a good outcome?
What would you do?
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Originally posted by Wayne View PostCould well be the case but did this one put society at risk?
Possibly more risk from all the people running around with the knives out.
Letting him off to roam the streets at will is a risk to society isn't it?
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Originally posted by Bob Kane View PostWhat is the best practise when an offender threatens and intimidates a victim into not telling anyone about an assault, especially the police?
You go up to the victim and ask if they want to talk to the police.
The victim says no.
You say, "ok, we won't tell the police."
Offender walks free and commits more assaults.
Is that a good outcome?
What would you do?Originally posted by Bob Kane View PostOne offender assaulted four young people in one night.
Letting him off to roam the streets at will is a risk to society isn't it?
Bob, I'm not saying it is right that the alleged offender isn't brought to justice but what actually are the privacy laws around this.
Are you suggesting that they should have gone against the privacy laws and informed the police because 2 wrongs make a right?
Which other laws do you choose to uphold or not?
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