Earthquake Issues for Commercial Buildings

[Maccachic]

Make alcohol illegal (prohibit) and you would need more police to police the prohibition.
Wouldn't work - not happening.

Really? Are you sure or is it that you don't realise the numbers of people who take illegal drugs? Where are you going to house all these drunks?

[iwik]

EXACTLY iwik, the first sensible thing you've said on this issue.

The older buildings didn't fall down, BUT the parapets and awnings on them came down. SO, the thing to do is make sure those things are very safely secured so that they can't come down. The buildings themselves don't need strengthening at all - the experts at GNS Science even say so.

BUT, the government reckoned they knew better and Maurice Williamson, that bastion of credibility, was tasked with putting in a law that would make people feel like the government was onto it and buildings would now be safe. So the law was drawn up and passed with no changes made through the consultation process.

And it will make absolutely NO DIFFERENCE.

Typing in capitals - spot the one who is heated up over this topic - Davo36 aka old building owner.

Get Real ! Do you think a humber 80 is a modern car ? PCG an old building !
Pure luck the death toll was not more from old internal building masonry closely
missing people.

No teacher like experience - If you had been here you may feel differently.

Times must have changed since the prohibition era of the 20's and 30's (USA).
And I thought there was a meth problem in NZ?

How many road fatalities are caused by someone being at the wheel
high on meth compared to alcohol ?

Biggest drug problem we have in NZ is alcohol !

[Wayne]

Really? Are you sure or is it that you don't realise the numbers of people who take illegal drugs? Where are you going to house all these drunks?

I do realise the number of people who take illegal drugs.
But that has nothing to do with the quote - that was about alcohol.
My point is that making alcohol illegal would not reduce the number of police needed as per the Police Commisioners comment - we would need more to police the prohibition.

And why would prohibiting alcohol increase the number of drunks?
You have lost me!

[Wayne]

How many road fatalities are caused by someone being at the wheel
high on meth compared to alcohol ?

Biggest drug problem we have in NZ is alcohol !

I have no idea - do you?
I don't disagree that alcohol is our biggest drug problem.
One that won't be solved by prohibiting it I'm afraid.

[Maccachic]

I do realise the number of people who take illegal drugs.
But that has nothing to do with the quote - that was about alcohol.
My point is that making alcohol illegal would not reduce the number of police needed as per the Police Commisioners comment - we would need more to police the prohibition.

And why would prohibiting alcohol increase the number of drunks?
You have lost me!

Sorry meant to quote IWIK below you

[iwik]

Never said prohibition would increase number of drunks, would reduce
as many be to scared to moonshine or buy moonshine.

Common knowledge more killed by drunk drivers than p drivers - stands
to reason with it being the most common drug used.

[Maccachic]

Would love to see some stats on both P is becoming a serious issue one high profile person in the news recently succumbing to the destructive drug - how much info is even publicised about people killed by P. I know of a few people either addicted / who have used it and apparently its easier to get than weed, the full extend of the situation is hard to judge.

The people you are trying to target are the exact same people who will buy the bootleg stuff the law abiding citizens who have a few glasses and cause no / minimal trouble are the ones who will stop.

[iwik]

Yes when you get someone reading the news on P
its an issue ☺
Valid point on the target in the main, still countless
examples of non regular pissheads having to
many drinks at the work function etc and killing.

Ban alcohol - don`t run top fuel dragster`s on the stuff for nothing !

[Wayne]

Ban alcohol - don`t run top fuel dragster`s on the stuff for nothing !

Not going to run many dragsters on my favourite beer or the nice Pinot Noir I had last night.

[iwik]

If you drawed the ethanol out you may make 1/2 an RPM
Be better with the 80% proof wild turkey had new years
eve - one mate was spewing in the garden at half eleven.

Or the 70% proof Patron had yesterday

What is your favourite beer ?

[speights boy]

Get a room you two.
Preferably in the Coffee Lounge.

[iwik]

started beer topic in lounge

[speights boy]

Market Forces.

Market forces putting property owners under more pressure to quake strengthen than the law

Market forces are pushing commercial property owners to meet higher earthquake strengthening standards than required by law.

Tenants, bankers and insurers are often putting more pressure on property owners to upgrade their buildings, than the local authorities enforcing the Building Act.

http://www.interest.co.nz/property/73965/market-forces-putting-property-owners-under-more-pressure-quake-strengthen-law

[Davo36]

Has anyone read this? http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11446301

Nick Smith is altering the way commercial buildings are going to be assessed for earthquake strengthening issues. Because the current regime is basically bat shit crazy worthless, in that it won't save lives but cost a fortune.

Not sure what the effect of it will be. Like if people will start to relax a bit more about these buildings.

Would be interested in other's comments.

[eri]

about time

low risk areas

were separated from high risk



fun to see lenny

try and claim some credit

a follower of men

a leader of little boys